I challenge the neoliberals dispensing these talking points (Reply #14)

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Sun Feb 15, 2015, 10:07 AM

14. I challenge the neoliberals dispensing these talking points

to name all the countries that have grown authoritarianism and rampant inequality, in which women and minorities remain *empowered.*

What utter bullshit, this Third Way claim to care about vulnerable groups, when their policies are aggressively dismantling the very democratic and economic protections that the whole of human history teaches us are necessary for marginalized groups to be empowered.

Neoliberals are a MENACE to the future of vulnerable groups. They are a menace to democracy itself.

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130 replies	Author	Time	Post
Social Justice is the ONLY Path to Economic Prosperity for Workers in This Country [View all]	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	OP
Whether we like it or not a great many jobs are going away and not being replaced	Fumesucker	Feb 2015	#1
This message was self-deleted by its author	Broward	Feb 2015	#9
I challenge the neoliberals dispensing these talking points	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#14
Ok, I'll bite. What is a "neoliberal"?	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#27
Nearly 15,000 posts you have, and you don't know what a neoliberal is.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#43
Neo-liberal defined	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2015	#50
I still don't get what a neoliberal is supposed to be.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#55
I guess it depends on what you stand for.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2015	#61
So LBJ was a neoliberal because he took money from Brown & Root	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#69
LBJ gave them the war in Vietnam?	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2015	#74
"LBJ had little choice but to commit to the Voting Rights Act" Sigh.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#79
Seeing what we are dealing with today,	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2015	#83
The CIA dumped the coke in the 1980s. In the 1960s, they dumped heroin.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#86
Ok, I googled it.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#58
The term is more evolved than that.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2015	#66
You mean like FDR interring the Japanese during WWII? That kind of illegal stuff?	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#73
McCamy, you keep mentioning presidents, as if they	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2015	#78
If we had heeded the lesson of history, we would not have had the crash of 2008.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#84
I don't see where the disconnect is with us.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2015	#90
"Neo-liberal" = Not joining the revolution ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#95
Corporate neocolonialism is sold with the same sweet smell of the old colonialism	HereSince1628	Feb 2015	#60
A tactic of Third Way propaganda	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#64
While I know the traditional meaning of neoliberal I'm not really bound to it	HereSince1628	Feb 2015	#75
+1 Purposeful obfuscation is the MO of the corporate coup targeting our democracy.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#92
Hijack? As in what you are doing by introducing "Hillary is Neoliberal" in a thread about social	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#76
What do "neoliberalism" and "neocolonialism" have to do with each other besides the "neo" part?	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#67
Neocons and neoliberals have so much in common,	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#71
Mostly I think it references the different players and the different contexts	HereSince1628	Feb 2015	#77
Nonsense.	99Forever	Feb 2015	#2
Apparently phenomenally so.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#41
Yep.	99Forever	Feb 2015	#44
I hope, so much,	dotymed	Feb 2015	#48
I couldn't agree more.	99Forever	Feb 2015	#68
Gullible? ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#101
Very. That is why we do not have socialism in this country. Yet.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#3
Sen Sanders	aspirant	Feb 2015	#4
Yes, if he runs. Is he running?	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#19
We will know in March	aspirant	Feb 2015	#23
I'll get back with you when I see the polls.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#29
You rely on polls?	aspirant	Feb 2015	#42
If you know how to read them, polls are very reliable. More than the tabulated vote sometimes.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#56
Read them, are they like books?	aspirant	Feb 2015	#72
This is why we cannot get the changes we really need. You need to support the candidate that	Dustlawyer	Feb 2015	#45
Agreed, no more "lesser of two evils."	dotymed	Feb 2015	#53
We'd need a parliamentary government to beak free of the two party system.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#59
IDK	dotymed	Feb 2015	#65
Eugene Debs never came close to pulling a 3rd Party upset ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#102
Utter ...	sendero	Feb 2015	#5
I have good news for you! Economic progressives are GREAT on social justice issues!!	stillwaiting	Feb 2015	#6
Thanks ..	sendero	Feb 2015	#8
Except when they are putting economics ahead of social justice issues. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#104
Economic justice and social justice MUST be fought for simultaneously.	stillwaiting	Feb 2015	#105
Agreed; but, go back and read what ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#116
Let me ask you, That unwed mother is poor, those Koch Brothers are a nasty peice of work but when is	Autumn	Feb 2015	#7
Julian Castro.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#34
Julian Castro does give a nice speech.	Autumn	Feb 2015	#35
Hillary Clinton	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#38
This message was self-deleted by its author	Autumn	Feb 2015	#40
The last 30-plus years in this country suggest otherwise.	Broward	Feb 2015	#10
No, the dismantling of democracy and the increase of authoritarianism and inequality	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#11
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2015	#12
There's a bunch of "progressives" who sound just like right wingers	boston bean	Feb 2015	#13
Social Justice Warriors?	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#25
Ayup, been called that in a dismissive/rude way, many times.	boston bean	Feb 2015	#28
LOL ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#107
I agree with you 100% and only have to look at the "quality" of the posters doing their damndest	Number23	Feb 2015	#124
Not seeing the forest for the trees -	TBF	Feb 2015	#15
Herman Cain and others come to mind	Ichingcarpenter	Feb 2015	#37
I'm brazen enough to expect both at once. n/t	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#39
As a socialist who is female I often	TBF	Feb 2015	#46
"What we can't do is focus solely on civil rights and hope the money will follow"........	socialist_n_TN	Feb 2015	#70
Agree.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#88
That post you just agreed with seems to be in direct conflict with the point of your own OP.	Number23	Feb 2015	#125
I agree with this as well. This discussion reminds me...	OneGrassRoot	Feb 2015	#96
I don't think that a change in economic power would wipe out bias overnight........	socialist_n_TN	Feb 2015	#106
Wow ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#110
I don't know. Maybe I did......	socialist_n_TN	Feb 2015	#121
Okay. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#123
I don't dispute your points about capitalism at all...	OneGrassRoot	Feb 2015	#120
Well see that the thing, it's ALL interconnected......	socialist_n_TN	Feb 2015	#122
Indeed. I'm totally in agreement with that. :) n/t	OneGrassRoot	Feb 2015	#129
They got theirs ......... but fuck everyone else	Ichingcarpenter	Feb 2015	#49
So Hillary is the answer to	Ichingcarpenter	Feb 2015	#16
No. Social Justice is the Answer.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#26
Are people disagreeing with the premise of McCamy's post, or the mention of Hillary?	OneGrassRoot	Feb 2015	#17
The premise of the OP. Look at the last 30 years of American life.	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#21
Wow, fascinating...	OneGrassRoot	Feb 2015	#24
There are many, even "progressives" who feel income equality	boston bean	Feb 2015	#30
Yeah, I'm having a hard time understanding that, too. Thanks, boston bean. :) n/t	OneGrassRoot	Feb 2015	#32
I don't think the two should be separated, and at one time, for Dems, they weren't.	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#33
Right, Bill Clinton signed DOMA in the 90s, and now marriage equality is the rule, not the exception	eridani	Feb 2015	#128
You're right...	OneGrassRoot	Feb 2015	#130
No, social justice is not way up. We were doing OK in the 1970s, but then Reagan	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#52
There have definitely been reverses, particularly in reproductive rights,	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#57
See my post #15 and the followup - I disagree with her entire premise. nt	TBF	Feb 2015	#80
MLK Jr's "Poor People's Campaign"	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#18
+1 ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#111
I disagree because there is more than one way to economic prosperity	Harmony Blue	Feb 2015	#20
Self empowerment. Does that mean "bootstraps"? Too bad some kids don't have boots.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#31
I don't understand where the idea that social justice hasn't changed anything.	boston bean	Feb 2015	#36
I don't think the term "social justice" has been used in the same way throughout	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#47
It's common sense that neither stands on their own.	boston bean	Feb 2015	#54
Social justice HAS helped economic justice. For instance	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#63
Self empowerment has been the cornerstone of the left	Harmony Blue	Feb 2015	#85
Bootstraps are the Repubs core economic policy.	aspirant	Feb 2015	#89
The idea of self improvement and self determination	Harmony Blue	Feb 2015	#100
Dedicated meditation	aspirant	Feb 2015	#113
hard work	DonCoquixote	Feb 2015	#126
Hard work is not longer sufficient.	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#127
ALL of HISTORY proves this argument to be beyond dumb and dishonest.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#22
The tone of the responses is almost deafening. To me, it makes the case...nitpicking, criticizing	libdem4life	Feb 2015	#51
Great post. And on topic, too!	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#91
ROFL! Actually, that post is predictable ad hominem	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#108
Thank you for sharing. n/t	libdem4life	Feb 2015	#118
Great Post! I only wish to add...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2015	#114
Thanks...and agree.	libdem4life	Feb 2015	#119
People can arrive at the same conclusions through different approaches.	lumberjack_jeff	Feb 2015	#62
Without a doubt this is as true as true can be gotten	madokie	Feb 2015	#81
Oh, is this the meme wherein we need to be nice to the poor bankers, and just be	djean111	Feb 2015	#82
Hell no! I posted in 2008 that we needed our own Ferdinand Pecora and I still say we do.	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#94
We are like mere dogs trying to understand the internet.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#109
Thank you for speaking up	libodem	Feb 2015	#87
Awesome OP but are you sure right wingers 'hate and fear Hillary Clinton'? The	KingCharlemagne	Feb 2015	#93
Uh... yeah. I'm sure. Back in 2008 it took me three mega long OPs to chronicle all the ways	McCamy Taylor	Feb 2015	#98
Hmm, that's interesting. Perhaps I shall have to examine Ms. Clinton anew with a	KingCharlemagne	Feb 2015	#103
^ This. She is establishment	TBF	Feb 2015	#99
Word salad as OP. n/t	brentspeak	Feb 2015	#97
^^^ Nailed it. ^^^	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#112
social and economic justice are fought side by side	Ramses	Feb 2015	#115
These topics often drop like a stone on DU	daredtowork	Feb 2015	#117

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