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SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
62. Unfortunately, most Hillary supporters here
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 11:10 AM
Feb 2015

can be pretty vicious towards anyone who does not bow down to The Inevitability of Hillary. While that doesn't necessarily make them assholes, it does make them astonishingly intolerant. In 2008 her supporters stuck with her well after it was clear that Obama had the nomination, and they (her supporters) didn't care at all that they were dividing the party to the point where if we lost the Presidency, they just didn't care. PUMAs, remember? Party Unity My Ass. I fear it will be even worse this time around.

In '08 all those who questioned The Inevitability of Hillary were cast as ignorant Hillary haters who did not understand that Now Was Her Time, and anyone who stood in the way of the tide of history would be drowned in the Hillary flood. I keep on wanting to pretend I was kidnapped by aliens, or went into a coma at the end of 2007, and now that I'm back/awake, I'm eager to find out what wondrous things Hillary has wrought, since she must surely be in her second term by now.

What I find truly horrifying by those who don't question that Hillary will of course be the candidate, is that they just don't get her corporate connections, they don't understand that she is completely out of touch with the regular middle class, let alone the working and poor classes, and how much she is truly hated by the other side. People will blithely brush aside that last, saying that she's bullet-proof because she went through that all before, and so nothing can be thrown against her. Yeah? Not only will they (the Republicans) bring up everything they brought up before, but now there's Benghazi! You think the Swift Boaters did a number on Kerry? That will look like a love fest in comparison.

If I thought Hillary Clinton really were our best choice, I'd be working on supporting her, but she's not our best choice. She's a tired re-run from eight years ago.

I find it revealing that at this point neither political party has anyone new being touted as a Presidential candidate, other than Jeb Bush for the Republicans -- and he's a brother and son of Presidents -- and Elizabeth Warren, who repeatedly says she's not a candidate. The Republicans are moving further and further to the right, in response to their own extremists, while the Democratic Party for the most part is just following them.

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Let the primary make the determination. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #1
I hope we get a primary with choices HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #7
What are the other choices? MH1 Feb 2015 #73
Really too early to know...typically the announcements fall ~june to ~oct of preceding years HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #82
So it's not OK..... daleanime Feb 2015 #35
Like he can do anything else. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #72
Yes, and before supporting someone, wait for them to declare they are running treestar Feb 2015 #81
I sometimes send money to candidates I want in the primaries even Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #93
No one has declared treestar Feb 2015 #94
It started with BDS, Bush Derangement Syndrome Fumesucker Feb 2015 #2
Dubya. Now there was a specimen. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #38
Oh, better than that, my dear - you are also called a rat-fucker, a misogynist, a Republican troll, djean111 Feb 2015 #3
+1 Scuba Feb 2015 #26
+ 1,000 n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #29
Amen.... daleanime Feb 2015 #36
So oblivious. I can't stand Hillary. She was my Senator. I backed Obama initially KittyWampus Feb 2015 #67
All I can say is Andy823 Feb 2015 #77
+1 merrily Feb 2015 #83
It's 'ratfucker'....no hyphen. When you are correcting msanthrope Feb 2015 #84
If after the dust settles she is the nominee madokie Feb 2015 #4
Actually, I find the term "hater" very useful. winter is coming Feb 2015 #5
+1 nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #86
one can stop tearing others up just by a decision, not related to any nominee nt msongs Feb 2015 #6
I don't hate her but wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #8
No,it just makes you want a filthy Republican to win. Give me a break! olegramps Feb 2015 #9
You Forgot The Sarcasm Thingy... And Your Grammar Watch... WillyT Feb 2015 #12
If she runs, I'm voting for Ted Cruz. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2015 #10
The word hate is is the most misued verb in our lexicon. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #11
Now that is some truth Android3.14 Feb 2015 #58
Oh, don' get me stated with EVIL! Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #66
no not a hater. oldandhappy Feb 2015 #13
At this point in 2007 Hillary had a substantial lead over all other contenders. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #17
I plan to vote for the Democratic nominee, regardless of who it is. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #14
WillyT, I agree with you. SoapBox Feb 2015 #15
You betcha. Also a misogynist and a Ted Cruz lovin' Paulbot, too RufusTFirefly Feb 2015 #16
Only the Clintons and the Bushs can run this country... the_sly_pig Feb 2015 #18
Yep, and that is what they want it to be. zeemike Feb 2015 #22
Bingo! Scuba Feb 2015 #27
I don't get "absolutists" either... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #19
So does the GOP. I think we have something closer to leadership than they have. randome Feb 2015 #91
That's all I'm saying too. Stellar Feb 2015 #20
"...That Makes Me A Hillary Hater ???" myohmy2 Feb 2015 #21
Looks like it's Goldman Sachs vs. the Koch Brothers in the main event. jalan48 Feb 2015 #23
I don't agree. It will be the Koch Crime Family vs. Bush Family Evil Empire in the preliminary event rhett o rick Feb 2015 #74
The nominee will already have been decided by the time I get a vote in the primary in neverforget Feb 2015 #24
Don't worry, the nominee is already decided before New Hampshire BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #43
Reading Thespian2 Feb 2015 #25
Your question seems to imply that anyone who favors Hilary is an asshole.... Moonwalk Feb 2015 #28
Unfortunately, most Hillary supporters here SheilaT Feb 2015 #62
Nice strawman DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #30
No, it doesn't. cheapdate Feb 2015 #31
You obviously haven't drunk the Hillary Koolaid. Try holdin your nose. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #32
I'll donate to, and support the Democratic presidential candidate in the 2016 election. NBachers Feb 2015 #33
WillT, I don't hate her. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #34
war, fracking, GMOs, TPP, neoliberalism breaking the back of everyone who’s not already a MisterP Feb 2015 #37
I am not a Hillary hater either.... chillfactor Feb 2015 #39
and what if we need Hillary to DEFEAT another damned bush? WINNING is our only option. pansypoo53219 Feb 2015 #40
Maybe you are just ready for someone else. I am , and in my case (being blue collar poor), Dragonfli Feb 2015 #41
Give a name please. "Someone Other" is not a winning candidate. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #42
The ready for "someone other" campaign isn't completely useless. stillwaiting Feb 2015 #45
Unter bus! BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #44
I've done my part. I am supporting Julian Castro. So, I want to hear everyone else's dream candidate McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #46
Not to worry Caretha Feb 2015 #49
Let's run down the list so far wyldwolf Feb 2015 #56
Yes, Willy, the Internet hates you. randome Feb 2015 #47
Can I get an Al Gore? He no longer comes with a Tipper. That makes him new and improved. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #48
The primary cycle is always frustrating to those who do only negative politics. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #50
So F*ing early in the morning? WhiteTara Feb 2015 #51
No, your attacks on her make you a Hillary Hater wyldwolf Feb 2015 #52
There we go. randome Feb 2015 #55
Why yes it does Willy. It also makes you a RW troll. Autumn Feb 2015 #53
Don't hate Hillary, don't want her as the nominee. tridim Feb 2015 #54
Lots of people would like lots of things. MineralMan Feb 2015 #57
DU is the only place on the net I have ever seen "haters" used so ubiquitously. Puglover Feb 2015 #59
No more Clintons - No more Bushs forthemiddle Feb 2015 #60
Obama was not the first in a long time not to have a family lineage. The only President who had Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #76
I worded that wrong forthemiddle Feb 2015 #79
It's a meme, and it's an excuse LWolf Feb 2015 #61
That's the way is was in 2007 and 2008. earthside Feb 2015 #63
I will not vote for her under any circumstance. Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #64
This is an ongoing issue, showing a real lack of enthusium creating edge for republican win. TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #65
I'd say it's more the numerous OP's that attack Democrats that would tend to have some DU'ers KittyWampus Feb 2015 #68
I will only vote for whoever is going to work to remove the oligarchy from our government. L0oniX Feb 2015 #69
Yes, it makes you a hater. Also, a booger-eater and fartknocker. winter is coming Feb 2015 #70
No. It makes you a good citizen making your decisions based on what you believe. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #71
A decision implies one or more alternatives. randome Feb 2015 #88
There are alternatives. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #89
Nice post Adolph. progressoid Feb 2015 #75
George Bush said it best: leveymg Feb 2015 #78
So long as you don't insist she is a conservative or a Republican treestar Feb 2015 #80
No, I think it makes you maxrandb Feb 2015 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2015 #87
One thing for sure, the Republicans aren't shying away from their "royalty" going for a three-fer. libdem4life Feb 2015 #90
I don't think it makes you a hater. Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #92
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