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Sun Feb 15, 2015, 01:25 PM

Feb 2015

''Five Reasons No ~~Progressive~~ Human Should Support Hillary Clinton''

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Five Reasons No Progressive Should Support Hillary Clinton [View all] newthinking Feb 2015 OP

None do glasshouses Feb 2015 #1

Not true. Elizabeth Warren supports Hillary. pnwmom Feb 2015 #41

What does Warren's support sulphurdunn Feb 2015 #75

If you read the post I responded to, you'd see that this poster claimed no progressive pnwmom Feb 2015 #81

I stand corrected sulphurdunn Feb 2015 #124

She also supports Bernie Sanders, it's called politics. Fearless Feb 2015 #152

When has she said that she, and all the Congressional women, hopes he will run? pnwmom Feb 2015 #153

As is Sanders running out of time....as a long-time Democrat I'm increasingly getting annoyed..... George II Feb 2015 #158

And yet, Elizabeth Warren has publicly attacked Clinton's Corporate friends, Goldman Sachs sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #82

Elizabeth Warren is a US Democratic Senator, who sits in a Democratic Caucus and depends merrily Feb 2015 #105

It's not silly to say she is a progressive who supports Hillary. pnwmom Feb 2015 #106

Yes, it is, for the reasons stated in my prior post. Also, as I have posted many merrily Feb 2015 #107

Then why don't you read through the very long list of bills at the site I linked to, pnwmom Feb 2015 #109

Why are you changing the subject? Besides, the US Senate is a conservative body and most Dems merrily Feb 2015 #113

I'm not changing the subject, you are. The topic was whether any progressive supports Hillary pnwmom Feb 2015 #115

No, the subject that starts this subtread was your post about Warren's endorsement of Hillary. merrily Feb 2015 #116

And THAT post was in response to the claim that no progressives supported Hillary. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #118

Which is totally irrelevant to your changing the subject of the subthread from Warren's merrily Feb 2015 #139

Not true, no matter how many times you insist. pnwmom Feb 2015 #141

+10 (nt) PosterChild Feb 2015 #134

Elizabeth Warren was quoted as saying she supports Hillary Clinton RUNNING for president... cascadiance Feb 2015 #137

Are you saying she doesn’t support Hillary as the nominee pnwmom Feb 2015 #143

Warren is saying "she is not running"... cascadiance Feb 2015 #144

No, read the quote again. She said "no" to the question "are you going to run?" pnwmom Feb 2015 #145

I am not sure the Warren is entirely progressive Bugenhagen Feb 2015 #170

Elizabeth Warren had more than a supportive word. She said pnwmom Feb 2015 #177

No one really supports Hillary. She offers nothing progressive. Oklahoma_Liberal Feb 2015 #2

So, the 17 million Democrats who voted for her last time didn't "really" support her... brooklynite Feb 2015 #19

this time around progressives have their eyes wide open hopemountain Feb 2015 #35

hear, hear! Stellar Feb 2015 #38

Elizabeth Warren is a progressive and she supports Hillary. pnwmom Feb 2015 #43

Please do not post facts ... NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #56

LOL!!! One of the 99 Feb 2015 #58

If DU was a measure of the Democratic Party... Historic NY Feb 2015 #60

Keep trying to sell that. merrily Feb 2015 #108

I don't have to it self sells here.. Historic NY Feb 2015 #127

Not really. merrily Feb 2015 #138

+10 (nt) PosterChild Feb 2015 #136

Then some of them need new glasses Renew Deal Feb 2015 #78

It's hard to take, for some, that these facts are indisputable at this time. demosincebirth Feb 2015 #97

She's Inevitable!!! ny tridim Feb 2015 #126

That's right! Just like the last time! n/t A Simple Game Feb 2015 #130

But ... But ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #160

Right. 840high Feb 2015 #83

Agree! Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #87

That females are over 50% of the population might have had a touch to do with that in a Dem primary, merrily Feb 2015 #114

Interesting point you make about the primary. I had no idea. But I'm still not sure what you mean. ancianita Feb 2015 #174

She offers plenty progressive. She is a liberal, supported by millions of other liberals -- NYC Liberal Feb 2015 #48

Those who support expanding H-1B Visas, the TPP, and was on the Walmart board is NOT liberal... cascadiance Feb 2015 #149

Well Done. bvar22 Feb 2015 #159

....if we're not going to support her myohmy2 Feb 2015 #89

Really? Beacool Feb 2015 #146

Not true. Everyone here needs to remember that "support" isn't "agreement." ancianita Feb 2015 #173

While I fully understand your arguments.... CherokeeDem Feb 2015 #3

They are not "My arguments", though I am indeed very concerned about some of Hillary's newthinking Feb 2015 #6

I will.... CherokeeDem Feb 2015 #22

If the primary were held today, I would vote for Martin O'Mallely. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #68

O'Malley would be my choice.... CherokeeDem Feb 2015 #91

One of the reasons we don't know who is running is that, since 2012, we've been hearing that, if HRC merrily Feb 2015 #112

A Democrat who chooses not to run because of Hillary, is not qualified to be President. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #171

Nothing in my post said Hillary was intimidating candidates. merrily Feb 2015 #172

Then provide an alternate definition to "no Democrat will run against her in the primary." Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #176

I don't know where to begin since you missed the point of the post so entirely. merrily Feb 2015 #178

So you are blaming a media narrative for intimidating Democratic Challangers? Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #181

No. I don't think any candidates have been intimidated by Hillary or by media. merrily Feb 2015 #182

In January, before Obama was reelected, they were opining about the Democrats Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #184

The only thing I can say is that never in my life have I seen a lead up to a primary remotely like merrily Feb 2015 #192

I don't believe in the PTB. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #197

You don't believe the Party has leaders who are more powerful vis a vis the Party than, say you and merrily Feb 2015 #199

The party has leaders, but the whole "Powers That Be" Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #201

"PTB" is just something that saves me a lot of typing. It simply refers to the people who have power merrily Feb 2015 #203

Courage? Thinking of a paddycake/profile raising pseudo run isn't courage it is playing the game TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #194

I disagree. This is no game. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #198

Completely Agree. n/t FSogol Feb 2015 #169

That really depends on whether you live in a reliably Democratic state hifiguy Feb 2015 #27

No one here wants a Republican alternative. But how far are we going to let the rhett o rick Feb 2015 #28

This is my concern as well. Are we prolonging the sufferring and risk? newthinking Feb 2015 #39

I think we are. Some think the slide into tyranny is ok if it's slow. It's too much work to fight rhett o rick Feb 2015 #98

My vote for a label? DeSwiss Feb 2015 #132

Ready For Jeb! JaneyVee Feb 2015 #4

If you don't want Jeb, nominate a progressive. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #11

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #32

Exactly. +1. GoneFishin Feb 2015 #69

+10000 Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #88

NO! No More Corporate lackeys, be they a member of the Bush Dynasty Or the Clinton Dynasty Dragonfli Feb 2015 #101

Hillary is outside Feb 2015 #5

So what does that say and how is the cycle broken? By perpetuating it? newthinking Feb 2015 #7

Sorry outside Feb 2015 #13

Yes the Oligarchs have enough money to do it. Doesn't mean I won't fight it all the way. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #12

LOL! We heard this inevitability meme before. HRC *might* be the dem nom, or she might not peacebird Feb 2015 #46

You like apples? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #90

I accept that you are a true believer. I believe she will energize many to come out to vote peacebird Feb 2015 #104

"I believe she will discourage many more from turning up to vote, mostly progressives or young." DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #123

# 6 swilton Feb 2015 #8

That is one of the most sexist things I have read here at DU. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #15

That is one of the most childish things I've read here at DU swilton Feb 2015 #66

While I am no fan, that is bullshit.. SomethingFishy Feb 2015 #21

Brilliance and having a career swilton Feb 2015 #31

So she's had no career? SomethingFishy Feb 2015 #47

You are definitely misreading the intent of my post swilton Feb 2015 #65

So you support denying chldren the chance to see a doctor. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #9

That is not the argument made in the source thread swilton Feb 2015 #10

The argument made was the Haillry does't support anything progressive. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #14

No, it discusses 5 important considerations from a progressive point of view. newthinking Feb 2015 #42

Bill Frist is a progressive? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #120

She couldn't find a Democrat ... GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #17

Helping children see a doctor is moral, ethical, right, and progressive. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #23

The problem is that if Wall Street has their way we will all end up in soup lines. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #99

You sound concerned. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #16

Say Hello to President Bush, little Johnny. We preferred a three-fer to a two-fer and proud we are. libdem4life Feb 2015 #18

She is to "progressive" what decaf is to coffee. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #20

The Hillary campaign is trying to re-brand their candidate Maedhros Feb 2015 #92

sounds like obama for the most part. nt msongs Feb 2015 #24

You know what they say about opinions... everyone has them OKNancy Feb 2015 #25

. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #26

We've heard a lot of reasons not to nominate HRC but the only reason I've seen for nominating her rhett o rick Feb 2015 #29

What no one seems to mention is "Health Problems." KoKo Feb 2015 #154

It's what sets us apart from the two-bit dictatorships that only offer their citizens one choice. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #156

Surely we can do better. JEB Feb 2015 #30

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #33

I'm a progressive,yet I would vote for Hillary if she is the Democratic candidate. DrewFlorida Feb 2015 #34

From here: Maedhros Feb 2015 #93

It's a bad argument in theory mythology Feb 2015 #157

Here's the thing: electing Hillary will ensure continuance of the Bush-Obama policy Maedhros Feb 2015 #163

And, so if Hilary is the candidate you will not vote for her? DrewFlorida Feb 2015 #186

Announcing beforehand that we will vote for ANY Democrat Maedhros Feb 2015 #190

So now you use an apeal to fear! DrewFlorida Feb 2015 #191

No, that is reality. You declare yourself automatic and NOTHING need be done to secure your vote. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #196

The logic being employed is this: Maedhros Feb 2015 #205

personally - hopemountain Feb 2015 #36

Only five? Can think of dozens of reasons to reject Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #37

I have no interest in HRC's positions on many things. That said... adieu Feb 2015 #40

Depends ... labels and labeling NotHardly Feb 2015 #44

No self-respecting progressive would vote for Clinton. 99Forever Feb 2015 #45

+1 nt benz380 Feb 2015 #67

This one won't either. n/t MissDeeds Feb 2015 #71

....x10 840high Feb 2015 #85

I will support the nominee MFM008 Feb 2015 #49

Hillary is a liberal, and as a liberal I am an enthusiastic supporter. NYC Liberal Feb 2015 #50

A rare time I agree with you davidpdx Feb 2015 #51

I suspect we agree about many other thing newthinking Feb 2015 #59

One reason why liberals should support whoever the Democratic nominee is still_one Feb 2015 #52

THEY DON'T CARE. Nominees to SCOTUS aren't as important as their personal ethics, damn it! BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #77

The stakes are higher than they have been still_one Feb 2015 #80

The Supreme Court LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #165

Bill Clinton appointed Ginsburg. Hillary is stands are mostly liberal on the issues still_one Feb 2015 #185

"I nominate Beyonce"... LuvLoogie Feb 2015 #53

I think we obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2015 #54

Then she is your best hope. Me? I think we can do better than a Reagan clone Dragonfli Feb 2015 #102

As a liberal.. if Hillary runs as our nominee.. she will get my full support.. Peacetrain Feb 2015 #55

Been there, heard that Frances Feb 2015 #57

I think a lot of progressives voted for Gore. I did. newthinking Feb 2015 #61

But the 95,000 in Florida who voted for Nader swung the election. pnwmom Feb 2015 #110

Gore won the 2000 election. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #96

So if Hillary gets the nomination we just shouldn't vote in November????? groundloop Feb 2015 #62

I'll be voting, but not for the Corporate Queen. nt benz380 Feb 2015 #63

Yea ,,,, stay home and elect another Republican,,,,,thats the ticket! Cryptoad Feb 2015 #64

Keep pushing Republican Lite, elect an actual Republican. GoneFishin Feb 2015 #70

I'm Done!!!! raindaddy Feb 2015 #72

Me too. RiverLover Feb 2015 #86

Good For You! raindaddy Feb 2015 #94

+1 n/t Alkene Feb 2015 #133

"Because there's not a dime's worth of difference between Al Gore and George Bush" greenman3610 Feb 2015 #73

Hillary's No Al Gore. raindaddy Feb 2015 #79

The country shifted to the right when Nader helped Florida get tossed to SCOTUS. pnwmom Feb 2015 #111

gawd your ilk won't let up on that idiotic conspiracy theory. m-lekktor Feb 2015 #117

So actually the Clintons owe everything to Nader? raindaddy Feb 2015 #128

Quoting Nader? Beacool Feb 2015 #148

5. She can win. MyNameGoesHere Feb 2015 #74

It's all fine and dandy to hash this out in the primaries... MrScorpio Feb 2015 #76

If she's the Democratic nominee I will vote for her... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #84

#6 becuase after she loses, even when all the progs knuckle down and pull the lever, MisterP Feb 2015 #95

Let's try to make the bullies into victims treestar Feb 2015 #122

, Dragonfli Feb 2015 #100

So say the "progressives" who support Putin. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #103

And how do you come to the conclusion that progressives support Putin? cascadiance Feb 2015 #147

Simple--the same way you come to the conclusion that progressives supported Saddam-- eridani Feb 2015 #155

You do know what "quotes" mean, don't you? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #187

So, perhaps you are saying that those who don't support Clinton aren't progressive then... cascadiance Feb 2015 #189

And here you see the vulnerability of candidates with experience. You can pick and choose McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #119

There's something missing in your title eridani Feb 2015 #121

K and R bigwillq Feb 2015 #125

Oligarchy money is the biggest reason to not support this fucking system. L0oniX Feb 2015 #129

+10000000000 woo me with science Feb 2015 #135

Who the VP will Be is something we ought to be thinking about..... KoKo Feb 2015 #166

There are far too few to waste any as Hillary's hood ornament/empty appeal to liberals TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #202

K&R DeSwiss Feb 2015 #131

I am a "Progressive" BlueMTexpat Feb 2015 #140

Another one of our "purist" gives advice maxrandb Feb 2015 #142

In the general election Progressives should support Clinton for one reason, if nothing else. Beacool Feb 2015 #150

It's NOT progressive to enable conservatives in any way... PERIOD uponit7771 Feb 2015 #151

One BIG reason they should Cartoonist Feb 2015 #161

Hillary. Wal Mart Board member (1986-1992) and former "Goldwater Girl." blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #162

That is ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #164

Ive only ever seen it written as member of WalMart's board of directors, no Foundation mentioned. merrily Feb 2015 #175

I read it somewhere a couple of years ago ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #179

Respect. merrily Feb 2015 #180

FYI merrily Feb 2015 #183

Bull Honky! moreland01 Feb 2015 #167

I'm Ready For Soup olddots Feb 2015 #168

K&R. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #188

#1 reason to support if democratic candidate. supreme court. 'nough said. seabeyond Feb 2015 #193

So should we set out the election in 2016??? OR are you saying we should vote for Bush or Walker? hollowdweller Feb 2015 #195

And one reasons progressives WOULD support her...... LynneSin Feb 2015 #200

Two reasons, any Progressive SHOULD support HRC ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #204