+100000 Party obsession is a scam for proles. (Reply #37)

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37. +100000 Party obsession is a scam for proles.

Oligarchs care about the corporate agenda of empire, police state, and profit...and making sure it continues no matter which party is elected.

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154 replies	Author	Time	Post
Hillary Clinton's suffocating presence/The Economist [View all]	Tierra_y_Libertad	Feb 2015	OP
Suffocating?	GeorgeGist	Feb 2015	#1
It's true. The Wall Street Democrats are trying to suck all the oxygen out of the party	Warpy	Feb 2015	#4
+1	daleanime	Feb 2015	#17
Ansolutely spot on.	hifiguy	Feb 2015	#25
And if she doesn't win, which I doubt she can, they still win.	A Simple Game	Feb 2015	#54
She's the Bob Dole of the Democratic party.	hifiguy	Feb 2015	#61
That is simply not true!	juajen	Feb 2015	#70
Of whom Andy Stephenson, who was a preogressive, anti-Wall Street Dem,	Ken Burch	Feb 2015	#150
I don't think they care if they win or not, just so no liberals are allowed in the contest.	Scuba	Feb 2015	#32
Why do you use the word "allowed"?	cheapdate	Feb 2015	#34
Certainly.	Chemisse	Feb 2015	#39
True.	cheapdate	Feb 2015	#40
They have to have money to finance a campaign	INdemo	Feb 2015	#111
Thanks to the Robert's court Citizens United decision (5-4),	cheapdate	Feb 2015	#118
Correct Only corporatists candidates need to apply	INdemo	Feb 2015	#146
Exactly, keeping libeals out of power is their sole reason for existing	Warpy	Feb 2015	#35
+1 an entire shit load.	Enthusiast	Feb 2015	#52
+100000 Party obsession is a scam for proles.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#37
Or they want a "liberal" like Edwards was who they know they can out during the primaries...	cascadiance	Feb 2015	#132
+1,000s (n/t)	bread_and_roses	Feb 2015	#47
Perfect response!	raindaddy	Feb 2015	#48
Silly	Egnever	Feb 2015	#147
Silly to count on her when she hasn't announced yet, you mean.	Warpy	Feb 2015	#148
I'm open	Egnever	Feb 2015	#149
READY to come off? The Hillary Express is already sitting up on blocks.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#151
Not to me. Sounds spot on. Plus, there's more in the article if you read beyond the headline. n/t	cui bono	Feb 2015	#7
3rd Way does suck all the O2 out of a room.	Katashi_itto	Feb 2015	#16
Pissy and Snarky are The Economist's middle names.	forest444	Feb 2015	#33
They endorsed Barack Obama for president in both 2008 and 2012 (nt)	Nye Bevan	Feb 2015	#84
Definition of PISSY	demwing	Feb 2015	#45
Pfft!	Enthusiast	Feb 2015	#53
Want proof?	RedstDem	Feb 2015	#140
I don't think of either Clinton or Warren as being too...	Mike Nelson	Feb 2015	#2
Nor do I but	Deny and Shred	Feb 2015	#5
Did you forget? Many thought he was too young and too inexperienced...	Phentex	Feb 2015	#9
I didn't forget	Deny and Shred	Feb 2015	#72
You don't think her candidacy would energize the women's vote?	George II	Feb 2015	#15
Intelligent women don't base their vote on genitalia.	Divernan	Feb 2015	#43
I doubt voters based their vote/non-vote on Sarah Palin because of her gender.....	George II	Feb 2015	#49
It's good you refuted your own post's argument.	jeff47	Feb 2015	#125
No, I didn't refute my own post's argument, and what was "pointed out" to me was inaccurate...	George II	Feb 2015	#130
Your claim was women will vote for Clinton primarily because of her gender.	jeff47	Feb 2015	#133
"Your claim was women will vote for Clinton primarily because of her gender" Where?	George II	Feb 2015	#141
Excellent riposte. Yet men will vote	erronis	Feb 2015	#64
It would, but is that enough?	Deny and Shred	Feb 2015	#73
I do not. I don't think the majority of women support her hawkish, pro-war stances.	rhett o rick	Feb 2015	#110
I think a primary though with Warren would help focus an emphasis on issues...	cascadiance	Feb 2015	#134
All but 1 of the women in my immediate family are strongly anti-Hillary & refuse 2 vote 4 her under any circumstances.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#152
warren will be 67 in 2016; clinton will be 69. reagan, the oldest president, was 69 (a few weeks	ND-Dem	Feb 2015	#30
Do we have any reason to believe they would have been better Presidents	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#69
well, reagan wouldn't have had alzheimers.	ND-Dem	Feb 2015	#75
I'm not sure that would have been an improvement, though. n/t	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#76
you may be right in reagan's case. fact remains, warren and clinton would be significantly older	ND-Dem	Feb 2015	#78
Jerry Brown is 76 (77 in less than 2 months), and just starting his second term as governor.	deurbano	Feb 2015	#104
Reagan was already an ass when he was governor of California	Art_from_Ark	Feb 2015	#144
true. but he didn't have alzheimers. that we know. and i'd guess that the reason whh & zt died	ND-Dem	Feb 2015	#145
If the Dems can't cough up an alternative to HRC's left,	HereSince1628	Feb 2015	#3
If it is the circumstances of the party then we are in a lot of trouble because not only do we have	jwirr	Feb 2015	#10
I'm not in wandering diaspora mode yet. June to Oct is typically the time for announcing	HereSince1628	Feb 2015	#13
If Bernie champions where you think the country should go you should vote for him anyway!	Dustlawyer	Feb 2015	#108
I will in the primary. But I will not help the Rs win in the general.	jwirr	Feb 2015	#112
what cannot be said	DonCoquixote	Feb 2015	#138
However it has come about, the inability of Dems to field a progressive candidate is bad	HereSince1628	Feb 2015	#142
IMO we're being set up for a Republican win by both sides.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#6
I would agree with you IF I thought that most peope in America even know what an Oligarchy is.	jwirr	Feb 2015	#11
This nation is learning about "oligarchy" whether people know the word or not.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#14
Really? So the 99% does not know who they are up against? What ever.	L0oniX	Feb 2015	#82
I live in a normal community and I come To DU to talk to people who actually understand what we	jwirr	Feb 2015	#88
Thanks, Woo. "Not as Bad" is losing its credence by its own acts.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Feb 2015	#18
An just listen to the language	demwing	Feb 2015	#66
Very depressing. Glad I don't keep guns.	rgbecker	Feb 2015	#41
Sure if the list was accurate but it's not, no big surprise there.	Agschmid	Feb 2015	#50
Surprise to me. Care to point out the inaccuracies?	Deny and Shred	Feb 2015	#80
Here we go...	Agschmid	Feb 2015	#89
Nonsense. Of course individual Democrats speak out in favor of liberal policies.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#92
Notice that last one about "Senate Democrats"...	Agschmid	Feb 2015	#93
Nothing you wrote there, including your failed "gotcha" attempt, changes my point.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#94
This message was self-deleted by its author	1000words	Feb 2015	#42
It's hard to see it any other way.	Enthusiast	Feb 2015	#57
The ugly truth. But there it is.	Enthusiast	Feb 2015	#55
Nominatimg Hillary guarantees a Repug win. The Dems can't be that stupid; I refuse to believe that.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#56
I wouldn't go so far as to say it guarantees a GOP win. The GOP field	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#96
+1, it's a scam	harun	Feb 2015	#91
the differences are there to get people to vote for the similarities ...	MisterP	Feb 2015	#95
!	DeSwiss	Feb 2015	#103
I fear that's true and that the winner is Jeb -	TBF	Feb 2015	#106
^^^What. Woo said ^^^	hedda_foil	Feb 2015	#116
Award-deserving post, AFAIC	pablo_marmol	Feb 2015	#129
Elizabeth Warren is emerging as the soul of the Dem Party.	AtomicKitten	Feb 2015	#8
What's sad is they don't have 10 more like her	fbc	Feb 2015	#20
Well, if the "Oligarchy meme is correct,	juajen	Feb 2015	#68
Ask Rahm Emmanuel that when he funded conservative dems in primary battles when heading the DCCC	cascadiance	Feb 2015	#137
Bernie Sanders 2016.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#21
I am with ya, woo.	hifiguy	Feb 2015	#26
'We stopped the Clinton ruthless ambition in 2008'	Maven	Feb 2015	#67
There is no irony; it was a clear choice.	AtomicKitten	Feb 2015	#74
The Right is for rethugs.	RiverLover	Feb 2015	#12
Another anti-Hillary Clinton (aka Hillary bashing!) article appears!	George II	Feb 2015	#19
Hooray!!!	fbc	Feb 2015	#22
Notice that the excerpt (can't be bothered with the rest) doesn't have a scintilla.....	George II	Feb 2015	#24
I'm younger than Hillary by a few years..	Fumesucker	Feb 2015	#31
Physically fragile Clintons are wrapped in protective cocoon of 5 star luxury, 24/7.	Divernan	Feb 2015	#90
And none of the other candidates will have similar entourages if elected?	George II	Feb 2015	#122
I don't speak argle bargle.	Divernan	Feb 2015	#123
Ageism at its best.	Agschmid	Feb 2015	#51
Age can have a suffocating presence, can't it?	George II	Feb 2015	#59
Because we think Clinton's too old to be head of state, we have nothing to live for?	ND-Dem	Feb 2015	#79
It's sarcasm did you see the tag?	Agschmid	Feb 2015	#87
aka Republican bashing. nt	RiverLover	Feb 2015	#23
Pile it on!!!!	George II	Feb 2015	#121
and written by a Cato Institute creep	OKNancy	Feb 2015	#120
More importantly, a destructive presence for the 99%	LittleBlue	Feb 2015	#27
Absolutely.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#29
Won't begin to be able to turn the trend around until '24 if HRC wins in '16.	stillwaiting	Feb 2015	#60
I'm still trying to figure out when it became acceptable for two families to monopolize the presidency	whatchamacallit	Feb 2015	#28
Shit is truly fundamentally broken.	Enthusiast	Feb 2015	#58
Very true	davidpdx	Feb 2015	#101
see my signature line	Man from Pickens	Feb 2015	#109
So some nameless guy from Tennessee writes a letter to the editor trying to scare Dems off	pnwmom	Feb 2015	#36
Just thinking about	Rose Siding	Feb 2015	#44
I know! Such AUDACITY from those proles	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#71
The "prole" in question is a reader of a business magazine -- not your typical prole. n/t	pnwmom	Feb 2015	#81
Really? How does that work, exactly?	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#85
Conservative and libertarian magazines. Since the magazine openly promotes deregulation and privatization,	pnwmom	Feb 2015	#136
What a bizarre and disturbing argument	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#143
It appears to me that perhaps no Democratic candidate would satisfy many Democrats	olegramps	Feb 2015	#114
Thanks for the very thoughtful post.	pnwmom	Feb 2015	#135
Hillary will run to Obama's right. And lose.	blkmusclmachine	Feb 2015	#38
Warren is not remarkably younger and does not seem it.	hrmjustin	Feb 2015	#46
Suffocating? AKA Overly Maternal? Sounds sexist to me. No man would be called "suffocating".	libdem4life	Feb 2015	#62
Suffocating as in quickly and painfully extinguishing life.	F4lconF16	Feb 2015	#99
Thanks, but I know the definition. It's a commonly used phrase to refer to a "smother mother" and	libdem4life	Feb 2015	#115
Point taken	F4lconF16	Feb 2015	#128
Oh, pleeeeeze. None of us are assured of waking up in the morning.	Thinkingabout	Feb 2015	#63
I am trying to imagine for a second that such a thing would be written about a male candidate	dsc	Feb 2015	#65
"insufficiently voted for"	wyldwolf	Feb 2015	#77
She lost to Obama. So she gets to run now? Dem's settle for a 2nd place looser as the front runner?	L0oniX	Feb 2015	#83
LOL. She's INEVITABLE!!!!!!	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#86
she's more inevitabler than ever	AtomicKitten	Feb 2015	#98
Of course she gets to run now.	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#97
Anyone can run.	joshcryer	Feb 2015	#100
While yer reading into what I said here's something that could help you...	L0oniX	Feb 2015	#107
There's also the issue of ascension.	DeSwiss	Feb 2015	#102
Petitions For 2016 Progressive Candidate For President TYT	RiverLover	Feb 2015	#105
Bush and Clinton - the rich and corrupt have nothing to fear from either one.	whereisjustice	Feb 2015	#113
yet another Republican from the Cato Institute being posted at DU	OKNancy	Feb 2015	#117
I'm Concerned About Her Viability to Win	ProfessorGAC	Feb 2015	#119
.	stonecutter357	Feb 2015	#124
Must throw the Economist Under the Bus, to join in all those other dubious sources!	2banon	Feb 2015	#126
"dubious sources" are those that aren't "Ready for Hillary".	Tierra_y_Libertad	Feb 2015	#127
For the record, the author who wrote this is not a Republican	dissentient	Feb 2015	#131
Was the writer of this article as concerned when Reagan ran?	Beacool	Feb 2015	#139
Why not jump over Hillary	JEB	Feb 2015	#153
kick	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#154

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