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jberryhill

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44. It probably isn't

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 02:35 PM

Feb 2015

Is your problem that he is not guilty under the statute, or is your problem the statute itself?

These two issues keep getting crossed in the discussion.

Whether he is guilty of the crime charged, or whether what he is charged with should be a crime, are two different questions.

So I'm wondering if the argument is:

1. "People should be able to profit from artistic works about a crime in which they were a conspirator."

Or

2. "This guy was not a conspirator in a crime about which he made an artistic work."

Are you arguing for #1, #2, or some combination of both?

If the point here is #2, then, sure, people get tried for stuff and found not guilty all of the time.

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ACLU prohibited from joining gang rap case [View all] marym625 Feb 2015 OP

I agree. TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2015 #1

wish I knew what to do about marym625 Feb 2015 #4

I don't think that's justified. Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #2

Thank you. n/t marym625 Feb 2015 #3

There's no right of third parties to file briefs in trials jberryhill Feb 2015 #5

True marym625 Feb 2015 #6

If they allowed amicus briefs on one side, they'd have to allow them on the other onenote Feb 2015 #7

I don't have an issue with that marym625 Feb 2015 #9

Do you have a link to the text of the statute in question? jberryhill Feb 2015 #12

yes marym625 Feb 2015 #19

That does not appear to the be the correct one jberryhill Feb 2015 #26

That's what was cited in the ACLU article marym625 Feb 2015 #27

Unless it is this part here: jberryhill Feb 2015 #30

That's it marym625 Feb 2015 #32

So? jberryhill Feb 2015 #34

except that freedom of speech marym625 Feb 2015 #37

The law doesn't prohibit writing or publishing a song jberryhill Feb 2015 #41

How is writing a song years before a shooting marym625 Feb 2015 #42

It probably isn't jberryhill Feb 2015 #44

my issue is with both marym625 Feb 2015 #48

Actually, a better example of how this can be abused marym625 Feb 2015 #62

That's it marym625 Feb 2015 #29

Read the second sentence of the OP. merrily Feb 2015 #38

So? merrily Feb 2015 #33

That's true - but this is a novel prosecutorial theory, and if a conviction occurred, Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #13

...and on appeal, that would be an appropriate thing to do jberryhill Feb 2015 #14

Good thing Jim Croche ain't still around hootinholler Feb 2015 #8

OMFD! marym625 Feb 2015 #10

Actually Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #11

ya know marym625 Feb 2015 #20

Yeah, it's most commonly misheard as "fight" Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #23

interesting marym625 Feb 2015 #25

Except the UK wasn't involved in Vietnam jberryhill Feb 2015 #28

like that would stop the US marym625 Feb 2015 #31

The statute is not that broad jberryhill Feb 2015 #16

Yes marym625 Feb 2015 #21

There was a wild colonial boy, Jack Donahue was his name. Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #15

The law and the case are atrocious, Ms. Toad Feb 2015 #17

I get that marym625 Feb 2015 #22

Yet another example... gregcrawford Feb 2015 #18

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sounds like it marym625 Feb 2015 #45

He did write some great stuff. merrily Feb 2015 #47

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Yeah marym625 Feb 2015 #53

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Why yes! marym625 Feb 2015 #50

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or, and this is just an idea, marym625 Feb 2015 #54