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In reply to the discussion: Tesla Motors Announces A New Home Battery; Living Off The Grid Will Soon Be Status Quo [View all]KamaAina
(78,249 posts)9. Well, they haven't blown up a neighborhood in the past couple of years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_San_Bruno_pipeline_explosion


The 2010 San Bruno pipeline explosion occurred at 6:11 pm PDT on September 9, 2010, in San Bruno, California, a suburb of San Francisco, when a 30-inch (76 cm) diameter steel natural gas pipeline owned by Pacific Gas & Electric exploded into flames in the Crestmoor residential neighborhood 2 mi (3.2 km) west of San Francisco International Airport near Skyline Boulevard and San Bruno Avenue. The loud roar and shaking led some residents of the area, first responders, and news media to initially believe that it was an earthquake or that a large jetliner had crashed. It took crews nearly an hour to determine it was a gas pipeline explosion. As of September 29, 2010, the death toll was eight people. The United States Geological Survey registered the explosion and resulting shock wave as a magnitude 1.1 earthquake. Eyewitnesses reported the initial blast "had a wall of fire more than 1,000 feet high"....
The Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) is the owner of the pipeline. On September 10, PG&E's president, Christopher Johns, said the company was not able to approach the source of the explosion to investigate the cause. An official press release issued by PG&E on September 10 reported the pipe was a 30-inch (76 cm) steel transmission line. PG&E shares fell 8% on the Friday after the explosion reducing the company's market capital by $1.57 billion.
PG&E also reduced their operating pressures by 20% after investigations revealed the pipeline may have been improperly installed.
After the San Bruno pipeline failure, PG&E was required to re-evaluate how it determines the maximum operating pressure for some 1,800 miles of pipeline throughout its system. Specifically, the California Public Utilities Commission asked PG&E officials to show their lines had been tested or examined in a way that could prove the pipeline can withstand the current maximum operating pressure. At the March 15, 2011 deadline for this Report, PG&E was unable to provide documentation for details of some of its gas transmission pipelines.
The Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) is the owner of the pipeline. On September 10, PG&E's president, Christopher Johns, said the company was not able to approach the source of the explosion to investigate the cause. An official press release issued by PG&E on September 10 reported the pipe was a 30-inch (76 cm) steel transmission line. PG&E shares fell 8% on the Friday after the explosion reducing the company's market capital by $1.57 billion.
PG&E also reduced their operating pressures by 20% after investigations revealed the pipeline may have been improperly installed.
After the San Bruno pipeline failure, PG&E was required to re-evaluate how it determines the maximum operating pressure for some 1,800 miles of pipeline throughout its system. Specifically, the California Public Utilities Commission asked PG&E officials to show their lines had been tested or examined in a way that could prove the pipeline can withstand the current maximum operating pressure. At the March 15, 2011 deadline for this Report, PG&E was unable to provide documentation for details of some of its gas transmission pipelines.
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Tesla Motors Announces A New Home Battery; Living Off The Grid Will Soon Be Status Quo [View all]
KamaAina
Feb 2015
OP
What charging system is the apartment equipped with? / How will you charge the battery? n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2015
#32
As with any home improvement, the cost will be included in the price of the house (or your loss
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#25
We also have a bank of golf cart batteries for our photovoltaics. Problem is, if power goes out
peacebird
Feb 2015
#12
Agree. If your energy source isn't happening, then the batteries are only going to
cbayer
Feb 2015
#13
Yes, fortunately the panel shed snow pretty quickly. We haven't ever even taken the generator
peacebird
Feb 2015
#14
We have solar hot water tank that then flows into a traditional hotwater tank which rarely needs to
peacebird
Feb 2015
#16
This sounds like a pack for those who don't want to build their own. I'd rather build my own...
uponit7771
Feb 2015
#34
Yeap, do the wiring... the balance taps etc... I do that for EDF... not hard just will take longer..
uponit7771
Feb 2015
#44
The price of storage - Musk's LIon packs are expected to be <$100/kwh by 2017
kristopher
Feb 2015
#66
OK, nice article, but why does the link show a picture of a Nissan Leaf 90 KW power pack?
Fred Sanders
Feb 2015
#24
Keep in mind that weight is not so much a factor for home storage as it is for vehicles.
NYC_SKP
Feb 2015
#109
Home battery packs as an alternative to emergency generators is surely the first step.
Fred Sanders
Feb 2015
#110
I looked at an Escape Energi and a Fusion Energi because they offered Level 2-240 V charging
NYC_SKP
Feb 2015
#114
Wouldn't the Right Wingnuts love to get off the grid? Do they know what "grid" means? nm
rhett o rick
Feb 2015
#26
But when there's no source (dark, no wind) the costomer has to get from the grid...
uponit7771
Feb 2015
#37
Any battery system is going to have a defined period of time when the charge will be exhausted.
cbayer
Feb 2015
#43
The pack wont last forever you can "potentially" stay of the grid forever... the power source
uponit7771
Feb 2015
#46
One of your neighbors will buy a big field of solar panels and CAT natural gas/diesel and share.
hunter
Feb 2015
#54
I would never have this system without an alternate charing system that involved
cbayer
Feb 2015
#65
How much does the battery reimburse the homeowner for power in excess of household need?
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2015
#47
Our family has a remote vacation cabin for which this would be great...
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2015
#78
So tolls on every road then? Every person pays to sustain an electric company's business model?
KeepItReal
Feb 2015
#82
I think there should be GPS monitors in every vehicle and people should be taxed based on miles
dilby
Feb 2015
#89
So you're proposing a national system where the government tracks every movement of your car?
hughee99
Feb 2015
#92
No it's a solution to the problem of our roads crumbling around us because there is not enough money
dilby
Feb 2015
#94
So your solution to this problem would be a massive invasion of every person's privacy?
hughee99
Feb 2015
#98
I dream of going out to the Mojave desert and living like a desert rat
aint_no_life_nowhere
Feb 2015
#55
Oh HELL yes! Soon as I can afford it anyway. Itd be great right now, ice took out the pwr! nt
7962
Feb 2015
#57
I don't think in all places one can live in non-"hooked up" dwellings. Or at least, not receive
WinkyDink
Feb 2015
#87
And Congress will pass meaningful tax credits to help support this transition, right?
paparush
Feb 2015
#108