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quaker bill

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14. Gerrymandering
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:40 AM
Apr 2012

Most seats at the Federal level are not remotely competitive. For most seats in my area, get all the progressives to the polls for any candidate you pick and the results will be the same. The Dem or Repug will win as the seat was designed. Obama threw them a curveball in 2008 by getting "unlikely" voters to the polls in mass quantities. Even with that we barely unseated a couple of marginal wingers in congress who were replaced by true wingers in 2010.

The change in voter registrations left over from 2008 did cause them to throw Alan Grayson a seat for 2012. He now has a district where he should win by at least 5%, perhaps 10%. They did this to clean out the Dems from the other now much more secure winger Districts. A new equilibrium has been established, 3 wingers + Grayson. Run any candidates you like, mobilize whoever you wish, the results will be 3 wingers + Grayson. If you mobilize really well, the wingers will only win by 5 and Grayson will win by 15.

The larger point being that virtually no legislative career is made from issue advocacy, on either side really. The wingers promise to make all abortions illegal to get the fundy vote, but never actually do it, even when they hold all the cards. There is no point because if they make the fundys mad, they will only win re-election by 5 percent instead of the ususal 10 to 15. Only if the races become truly competitive will these folks begin listening to the voters. Short of that, they will only listen to the contributors.

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lack of leadership and vision in the democrats as a whole and in particular nt msongs Apr 2012 #1
So ProSense Apr 2012 #4
We know it will be quashed by Republicans and the Democratic Party leadership nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #2
Flawed ProSense Apr 2012 #3
Two thirds of Americans favor Medicare for All MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #19
How many ProSense Apr 2012 #20
"These proposals will never pass" because MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #26
Bullshit. randome Apr 2012 #27
Other. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #5
So ProSense Apr 2012 #6
Other: Pukes ellisonz Apr 2012 #7
Other: What we see is probably about 75% Kabuki and the rest is mostly obscure.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #8
Politics ProSense Apr 2012 #9
Everyone's perception of reality is warped.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #10
Don't agree ProSense Apr 2012 #11
I hope you aren't trying to imply I'm a birther? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #12
Good grief ProSense Apr 2012 #18
The majority of the American people get their information through the M$M.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #21
I understand ProSense Apr 2012 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Apr 2012 #13
Gerrymandering quaker bill Apr 2012 #14
Simple. The other side owns the media. Scuba Apr 2012 #15
because they're mainly window-dressing. no one actually expects them to go anywhere. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #16
Well, ProSense Apr 2012 #17
and the media won't promote them...why? because the folks who own the media are the same HiPointDem Apr 2012 #28
Frankly, ProSense Apr 2012 #29
Because THEY THREATEN THE STATUS QUO... polichick Apr 2012 #23
+1 Zorra Apr 2012 #24
The overpaid news media wants to retain low taxation levels closeupready Apr 2012 #25
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