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rhett o rick

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26. This thread is a great example of the divide in the Democratic Party as represented

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 05:16 PM

Feb 2015

by the DU microcosm. The crazy-assed Lefties (most likely the only ones to participate in this thread) respect whistle-blowers and don't go nationalistic ape-shit at the mention of RT (it has Russian in the name you know). The non-Left side of the Party will ignore this thread because they seem to feel that all whistle-blowers are trouble makers and should be treated like Ms. Chelsea Manning. That side of the Party would ban RT from DU if they had the chance. They like to use RT as justification for alerting. Apparently they would prefer Wolf Blitzer where "never a discouraging word is heard" about our country (Dog bless America).

So is it fair to say the non-Left Wing of the Democratic Party accept torture? No, not really. They will indicate that they are against torture, but are ok with not doing anything about it. "So some folks did some torture. Times were tough and they were really patriots." Frack that shit.

I bring this up because it will be important in our up coming brutal fight for our Party. The Crazy-Assed Lefties will be up against it, with the Oligarchy backed Corporate Wing of the Party.

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CIA whistleblower calls for prosecution of officials responsible for torture [View all] Octafish Feb 2015 OP

Horrible. polly7 Feb 2015 #1

CIA Torture program reminds me of NAZI human experimentation. Octafish Feb 2015 #4

So interesting. polly7 Feb 2015 #5

"[E]xperimental inquiry into what is possible" OnyxCollie Feb 2015 #7

"That is the textbook definition of human experimentation"... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #14

Yet, America continues to try to justify those actions. No honor. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2015 #56

That's because NAZI's were gainfully employed and their skillsets were increased by elements of US bobthedrummer Feb 2015 #19

padilla was an American citizen too questionseverything Feb 2015 #40

That's rather sanctimonious of Kiriakou, don't you think? Scuba Feb 2015 #2

Cheney was public face, but the responsibility is Bush's, who signed off on it. Octafish Feb 2015 #3

HEY! You said "RT" and that makes this whole thread suspect. RT has "Russian" in the title rhett o rick Feb 2015 #27

Considering he is pro-waterboarding, why, yes! nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #18

Didn't his understanding evolve? Octafish Feb 2015 #21

Um, no---his understanding didn't 'evolve' until he realized he could troll the Far Left. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #23

If that were so, he'd still be supporting US Government Torture program. Octafish Feb 2015 #25

No.....he's trolling the Farthest Left, Octa....pretending he gives a shite about msanthrope Feb 2015 #30

Do you have a government pension in your future, msanthrope? Octafish Feb 2015 #32

Kiriakou lost his pension because he went to prison. He.....like Jeffrey Sterling, msanthrope Feb 2015 #33

The psychotic heinous group-think of warmakers is destroying humanity and the earth. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #6

They truly are! We are living in post-fascist America. Octafish Feb 2015 #22

Many of them are New Apostolic Reformation dominionist zealots bobthedrummer Mar 2015 #69

And they fit hand in glove into the goals of the mic, as if one dependent upon the other. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #70

K&R. nt OnyxCollie Feb 2015 #8

I've got friends and family who are grieving over wars without end. Octafish Feb 2015 #24

K&R! marym625 Feb 2015 #9

William K. Black noticed that in regards to the Banksters. Octafish Feb 2015 #29

nope. not that many brave people in Washington marym625 Feb 2015 #58

Prosecution of these war criminals is step one JEB Feb 2015 #10

Gee, didn't this president come into office on behalf of transparency? What happened??? MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #11

+1 BeanMusical Feb 2015 #13

Ask Obama. /nt Ash_F Feb 2015 #12

Just finished watching "Kill the Messenger." Searched historical news articles about Gary Webb. kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #15

Ridiculous. John Kiriakou is pro-torture, everyone knows that. n/t yodermon Feb 2015 #16

Sarcasm? [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2015 #38

And, the thugs that participated in it. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #17

He should quit being so sanctimonious BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #20

Hell, he is a whistle-blower, so how much credence can he have? rhett o rick Feb 2015 #28

He's no whistleblower....he DEFENDED the use of waterboarding..... msanthrope Feb 2015 #31

The "Farthest Left?" BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #37

Nope..paraphrasing the TOS.... msanthrope Feb 2015 #39

Know thyself BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #41

Well--this the first time on DU I've been accused of being far Left. I suppose that's an msanthrope Feb 2015 #43

No BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #44

Why not just state plainly what you mean? I never alert on personal insults, because I think they msanthrope Feb 2015 #45

I'm not afraid of hides BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #47

Yes--that a few, sensible DUers remember when this CIA agent brazenly went on national msanthrope Feb 2015 #48

False equivalence BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #50

Which is exactly what I wrote.....anyone we can get for torture, WE SHOULD. msanthrope Feb 2015 #51

Well at least we agree on that. BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #52

The only place we disagree is where I think people like Kiriakou remain the pieces of shit msanthrope Feb 2015 #53

Then we don't disagree BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #55

Then I was wrong, and I apologize, truly. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #59

You don't have to apologize BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #62

Link to where he defended waterboarding? Vattel Feb 2015 #63

Oh yeah, whistle-blowers are the worst! BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #36

This thread is a great example of the divide in the Democratic Party as represented rhett o rick Feb 2015 #26

Amazing how much the party has changed. raindaddy Feb 2015 #35

'Amazing how the whistle blowers are subjected to more scrutiny than the corruption of the system... Octafish Feb 2015 #46

Thank you Octafish raindaddy Feb 2015 #60

In other words, Jamastiene Feb 2015 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Feb 2015 #34

A National Press Corpse Octafish Feb 2015 #67

Go look this guy up on... ReRe Feb 2015 #42

''I would do it all again.'' Octafish Feb 2015 #54

My day is not complete.... ReRe Feb 2015 #68

This country has no moral authority and will never have any until the torturers are brought to sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #49

Judge Laurence Silberman compared a journalist who said, 'Bush lied America into war' with NAZIs. Octafish Feb 2015 #57

MUST. LOOK. FORWARD. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #61

That's what Judge Silberman said, just the other day. Octafish Feb 2015 #65

That's just what Presidential Advisor Cass Sunstein said the other day. Octafish Feb 2015 #66