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Octafish

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62. Hide from you? LOL. Here's what a real expert thinks.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 12:41 PM
Feb 2015
Is This Barack Obama's 2nd Term? Is it Bill Clinton's 3rd? Or Is It Ronald Reagan's 9th?

They say that elections do matter, and that there are real differences between Republican and Democratic presidents. But backing up the view to 30 years, that difference looks a lot more like continuity, both at home and in America's global empire.

By Bruce A. Dixon
Black Agenda Report managing editor

The answer is yes to all three. Ronald Reagan hasn't darkened the White House door in decades. But his policy objectives have been what every president, Democrat and Republican have pursued relentlessly ever since. Barack Obama is only the latest and most successful of Reagan's disciples.

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In Barack Obama's case all he had to say was that he wasn't necessarily against wars, just against what he called “stupid wars.” Corporate media and “liberal” shills morphed that lone statement into a false narrative that Barack Obama opposed the war in Iraq, making him an instantly viable presidential candidate at a time when the American people overwhelmingly opposed that war. Once in office, Barack Obama strove mightily to abrogate the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq which would have allowed US forces to remain there indefinitely. But when the Iraqi puppet government, faced with a near revolt on the part of what remained of Iraqi civil society, dared not do his bidding, insisting that uniformed US troops (but not the American and multinational mercenaries we pay to remain there) stick to the withdrawal timetable agreed upon under Bush, liberal shills and corporate media hailed the withdrawal from Iraq as Obama's “victory.”

Barack Obama doubled down on the invasion and occupation of large areas of Afghanistan, and increased the size of the army and marines, which in fact he pledged to do during his presidential campaign. Presidential candidate Obama promised to end secret imprisonment and torture. The best one can say about President Obama on this score is that he seems to prefer murderous and indiscriminate drone attacks, in many cases, over the Bush policy of international kidnapping secret imprisonment and torture. The Obama administration's reliance on drones combined with US penetration of the African continent, means that a Democratic, ostensibly “antiwar” president has been able to openly deploy US troops to every part of that continent in support of its drive to control the oil, water, and other resources there.

The objectives President Obama's Africa policies fulfill today were put down on paper by the Bush administration, pursued by Bill Clinton before that, and still earlier pursued by Ronald Reagan, when it funded murderous contra armies of UNITA in Angola and RENAMO in Mozambque. It was UNITA and RENAMO's campaigns, assisted by the apartheid regimes of Israel and South Africa that pioneered the genocidal use of child soldiers. Today, cruise missile liberals hail the Obama administration's use of pit bull puppet regimes like Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda, all of which shot their way into power with child soldiers, to invade Somalia and Congo, sometimes ostensibly to go after other bad actors on the grounds that they are using child soldiers.

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http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/barack-obamas-2nd-term-it-bill-clintons-3rd-or-it-ronald-reagans-9th

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they will say that since they fired on the fascist warmongers it is perfectly justified. hobbit709 Feb 2015 #1
Obama PUT those shell casings there! randome Feb 2015 #2
Duplicate. polly7 Feb 2015 #3
Eh. That's LBN. This is GD. We can mock Putin and RT all we want! randome Feb 2015 #4
I couldn't care less what you do. polly7 Feb 2015 #5
Peace only if asshole Putin the warmonger stops his bullshit snooper2 Feb 2015 #20
Asshole Putin's resolution to the UN 'for peace' was unanimously agreed to. polly7 Feb 2015 #22
Given that this whole debacle was started NuclearDem Feb 2015 #26
LOL. That's funny. polly7 Feb 2015 #27
Doesn't change the fact that Russia agreed to respect Ukraine's territorial integrity NuclearDem Feb 2015 #28
Why the fuck would Crimeans be expected to live under the boot polly7 Feb 2015 #30
First of all, not a coup. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #34
Yeah, it was a coup. nt. polly7 Feb 2015 #36
........ Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #38
Oh I know exactly what it means. polly7 Feb 2015 #39
Then define it. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #40
You know what you can do with your orders. polly7 Feb 2015 #41
I have looked it up myself. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #43
Blah, blah ....... I've gone through this with you so many times it's beyond boring. nt. polly7 Feb 2015 #44
You're right. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #46
LOL. Seriously. nt. polly7 Feb 2015 #47
Seriously. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #49
Been there, done that ..... now don't be disingenuous. polly7 Feb 2015 #52
When have you been there? Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #53
Putin says it was a coup so they are sticking to that story. Putin has quite a few fans in America Cha Feb 2015 #109
Well, yeah. nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #113
Thank you. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #37
The usual suspects insist it was a "coup"..they've been fed that and they're sticking to their story Cha Feb 2015 #107
That's right.. it wasn't a coup. But, since Putin says it was a "coup".. they stick to that story. Cha Feb 2015 #108
polly7, you have to be joking Albertoo Feb 2015 #55
lmfao. Yeah, this has been tried, too ........ about two dozen times. polly7 Feb 2015 #56
YOU are a joke Albertoo Feb 2015 #58
A Kremlin-bot now? polly7 Feb 2015 #61
Go ahead and show us the evidence that the Ukrainian presidential and parlimentary elections.... Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #63
Do you live in some kind of parallel universe? Albertoo Feb 2015 #64
How about a cracker, since all you can dio is parrot the Putin line HERVEPA Feb 2015 #78
Sure, but are they salted? Really, you're getting sad with the insults. That one is just polly7 Feb 2015 #80
As is your constant bullshit and unwillingness to engage in substantive discussions with anyone HERVEPA Feb 2015 #81
Your constant bullshit and insults are neverending, why the fuck would I involve myself polly7 Feb 2015 #82
Add in lack of reading comprehension HERVEPA Feb 2015 #84
Eat your crackers, you might feel better. nt. polly7 Feb 2015 #85
I assume Vlad would need to pay more to get wittier stooges HERVEPA Feb 2015 #90
I only wanted to use two words, but thought it best to add an extra few. polly7 Feb 2015 #91
you seem to think your bald declarations are enough to support an argument treestar Feb 2015 #98
DU's Brave Sir Robin, she is. nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #102
You did ask very nicely, but you'll never get an intellectually honest answer, just talking points. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #88
So let me get this straight. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #60
Yeah but Pooty said not his fault...fascist blah blah... HappyMe Feb 2015 #6
His bootlickers swoon over his manliness... SidDithers Feb 2015 #8
One must support the cause!!1 HappyMe Feb 2015 #9
Wow, cool stuff! Bet they sell well with this crowd: freshwest Feb 2015 #93
Ghouliani thinks so.. Cha Feb 2015 #110
This is obviously Obama's fault. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #7
Was there any doubt? William769 Feb 2015 #10
Results... Major Nikon Feb 2015 #11
Oh boy! HappyMe Feb 2015 #12
Did you alert? polly7 Feb 2015 #14
Why the hell would I alert? HappyMe Feb 2015 #15
So Putin's an asshat, what does that have to do with polly7 Feb 2015 #17
You are calling names also. HappyMe Feb 2015 #18
Me either. polly7 Feb 2015 #19
Name calling. lol. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #29
You left out what I was replying to lol! polly7 Feb 2015 #31
I think you should simply stop calling people juvenile names. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #51
I think you should stop doing exactly what you're accusing me of, especially when polly7 Feb 2015 #57
"You started it all and have in this thread posted complete fucking lies." Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #68
Hey, rotate that a bit to the right and you've got a little fence! polly7 Feb 2015 #70
"You started it." NCTraveler Feb 2015 #73
Check out a mirror. polly7 Feb 2015 #74
The definitions of words are meaningless to that poster. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #71
'Grow up'? I don't know about Sid but I say, NEVER! randome Feb 2015 #13
Underoos are available in adult sizes Major Nikon Feb 2015 #16
LOL. Yep. nt. polly7 Feb 2015 #21
Cool MattSh Feb 2015 #75
''The Putin boot-lickers will have an answer for this, surely.'' -- SidDithers of DU Octafish Feb 2015 #23
So once burned, always burned? You'll never trust a satellite picture again? randome Feb 2015 #25
You're sad? Octafish Feb 2015 #32
So you can't tell the difference between Bush and Obama eh? FBaggins Feb 2015 #35
That is a good question. Octafish Feb 2015 #45
A good question which you're dodging FBaggins Feb 2015 #50
FBaggins, who made you DU prosecutor? Octafish Feb 2015 #54
Sorry... you can't hide FBaggins Feb 2015 #59
Hide from you? LOL. Here's what a real expert thinks. Octafish Feb 2015 #62
Bruce A. Dixon is a "real expert" now? FBaggins Feb 2015 #69
I have to side with Octafish of DU because zappaman Feb 2015 #72
You want an answer? MattSh Feb 2015 #76
"The USA started it" Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #77
Oh... that's simple enough. FBaggins Feb 2015 #86
Sadly, that's pretty much the long and the short of the rhetoric going on. nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #89
something something something BFEE something something...nt SidDithers Feb 2015 #42
Are you going to volunteer to join the PNAC fight for the Ukraine? Octafish Feb 2015 #48
Which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread eom treestar Feb 2015 #99
Yes it does. Octafish Feb 2015 #104
It is a totally different occurrence. treestar Feb 2015 #105
You and Cass Sunstein may want to forgive Bushes lying America into war. Not me. Octafish Feb 2015 #106
. Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #24
Bellingcat. LOL Karmadillo Feb 2015 #33
LOL Putin supporters nt geek tragedy Feb 2015 #100
Including this Asshole of the day.. Cha Feb 2015 #111
It says it is crowd sources treestar Feb 2015 #101
Hahaha! The Sydney Morning Herald! elias49 Feb 2015 #65
and it's "conservative" according to it's wiki page. m-lekktor Feb 2015 #83
Russian Military Units Linked to Ukraine Hide Casualty Data pampango Feb 2015 #66
Please stop recycling war propaganda Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #67
So we're supposed to believe... MattSh Feb 2015 #79
Nope. FBaggins Feb 2015 #87
Oh, now you did it Sid! freshwest Feb 2015 #92
I told a Russian colleague of mine about the Putin BainsBane Feb 2015 #94
What a coincidence! polly7 Feb 2015 #95
Yup. Putin boot lickers abound... SidDithers Feb 2015 #96
Haven't seen any Pootie boot-lickers, but there sure are a lot of McCain slipper-suckers defending polly7 Feb 2015 #97
The far right as well BainsBane Feb 2015 #103
It does make no sense.. Putin is a rw homophobic ******* supported by the US teabaggers inc Cha Feb 2015 #112
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