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Tierra_y_Libertad

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3. Yes. And, God help any journalists or whistleblowers who point that out.

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Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:15 PM

Feb 2015

The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants. Albert Camus

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US & UK spies hacked/stole encryption keys used to protect the privacy of cellphone communications [View all] bigtree Feb 2015 OP

I wonder what would happen if a private citizen did the same and claimed it was for Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #1

governments regularly violate laws and constitution with impunity now bigtree Feb 2015 #2

Yes. And, God help any journalists or whistleblowers who point that out. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #3

Law enforcement on all levels use any means at their disposal. lpbk2713 Feb 2015 #28

It's disgraceful Aerows Feb 2015 #69

They'd be in a SuperMax Aerows Feb 2015 #36

this is one of the biggest Snowden stories yet bigtree Feb 2015 #4

+10000000 Spot-on post. woo me with science Feb 2015 #11

this is an interesting link bigtree Feb 2015 #15

This should be an everyday OP Ramses Feb 2015 #19

It really is woo. Aerows Feb 2015 #29

Orwell is right! lovuian Feb 2015 #5

Exactly. Aerows Feb 2015 #33

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #6

Amen to that Aerows Feb 2015 #62

Isn't that what they're *supposed* to do? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #7

no bigtree Feb 2015 #8

EO 12333 seems to cover it...Just sayin' Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #9

it's theft; not just the SIM info, but the emails and other communication which led them to it bigtree Feb 2015 #13

Theft is apparantly okay Aerows Feb 2015 #73

So theft is legal Aerows Feb 2015 #34

who here at DU, thinks a cellphone is secure and/or private? ...nt quadrature Feb 2015 #10

more important to this debate bigtree Feb 2015 #14

completely wrong.. the cellphone company can always listen quadrature Feb 2015 #16

Nice evasion of the question. Aerows Feb 2015 #21

any supposed 'privacy', gives a falses sense of security quadrature Feb 2015 #23

LOL! Aerows Feb 2015 #24

kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #12

I really don't want Aerows Feb 2015 #31

This goes hand in hand Aerows Feb 2015 #17

Thats why they will wholeheartedly support Hillary just like Obama Ramses Feb 2015 #20

The evidence is all over the forum. Aerows Feb 2015 #22

Some people must agree with Bush Ramses Feb 2015 #25

Exactly, Ramses Aerows Feb 2015 #27

Does not surprise me in the least Ramses Feb 2015 #18

Theft Aerows Feb 2015 #71

Kick Aerows Feb 2015 #26

K&R! nt riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #30

Rather odd Aerows Feb 2015 #37

kick bigtree Feb 2015 #32

BREAKING: Spy agency in charge of breaking encryption and spying on communications DOES SO! MohRokTah Feb 2015 #35

govt. defenders downplay NSA spying and theft from individuals committing no crime at all bigtree Feb 2015 #39

There is nothing in the documents that says anything about spying on anybody in the US MohRokTah Feb 2015 #40

that's not the point of those with objections bigtree Feb 2015 #41

Are you naive? MohRokTah Feb 2015 #42

there's the ridicule bigtree Feb 2015 #43

There's the naivte MohRokTah Feb 2015 #44

ACLU is naive about taking the President's word bigtree Feb 2015 #45

The world spies on each other MohRokTah Feb 2015 #46

The bottom line bigtree Feb 2015 #47

And that's what's happening. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #48

monitoring of the lawful communications of employees of major international corporations bigtree Feb 2015 #49

And they WERE fair game. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #51

it is government massively engaging in illegal activities bigtree Feb 2015 #52

It is government massively engaging in the same activities EVERY government engages in. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #53

That's a classic to quoque argument Fumesucker Feb 2015 #55

You are completely wrong. Vattel Feb 2015 #54

Clearly fair game. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #56

I get it. Your claim is that what Obama said was true Vattel Feb 2015 #58

. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #59

. bigtree Feb 2015 #60

To be fair Egnever Feb 2015 #67

BREAKING: Bank robbers rob banks! Murderers murder! Rapists Rape! Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #70

kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #38

Either everybody is snowed in Aerows Feb 2015 #50

it's a 9-11-like response to the latest terror reporting bigtree Feb 2015 #57

I *always* get nervous Aerows Feb 2015 #61

kick Vattel Feb 2015 #63

Yep, kickity kick kick kick n/t Aerows Feb 2015 #72

Amazing how key information Aerows Feb 2015 #64

Isn't it. woo me with science Feb 2015 #65

They haven't decided on a talking point yet. Vattel Feb 2015 #66

That's why I posted my other thread Aerows Feb 2015 #68