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In reply to the discussion: 5 Reasons Why Leftists Should Defend Russia | New Eastern Outlook [View all]arendt
(5,078 posts)You make it sound like the ONLY issue at stake here is LGBT rights. Wrong. There are many issues. One of the biggest issues is that someone needs to stop the US neocons from fomenting trouble and starting wars - Georgia, Libya, Syria, Ukraine.
Libya and Syria targeted relatively rich and stable (if highly authoritarian) states that did not obey Washington's dictates. They were targeted and are now in civil wars that serve none of the natives, but do serve the neocon agenda.
Georgia and Ukraine targeted countries that could tighten the noose on Russia. In both cases, Russia fought back against neocon warmongering. The problem for the neocons is that Russia successfully resisted.
The idea that the Russians have been the aggressor is a propaganda canard. In the Georgian war, the Georgians (more on them later) attacked first. Again, in the Ukraine, the current government came to power in a coup supported by US neocons. The Russian-speakers in the East felt themselves completely disenfranchised by the coup and defended themselves from onerous demands. It is the opposite of true that the Novorussians started this war or made an initial offensive into Kievian territory.
As for the Georgian war, the Israelis are heavily invested in Georgia. Michael Saakashvili was their boy. Now he has been appointed to a committee by Poroshenko. Oh, he is also a wanted criminal:
Saakashvili energetically supported Ukraine's Euromaidan movement and the 2014 Ukrainian revolution. On 13 February 2015, he was appointed by the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko as head of the International Advisory Council on Reforms. Saakashvili is wanted by Georgia's new government on multiple criminal charges, which he denies as politically motivated.
- Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikheil_Saakashvili Mikheil Saakashvili]
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Reprising the title of this reply, it's not simple. It's all about tradeoffs. (For historical reference, see Churchill, Enigma, and the bombing of Coventry.)
To me, anyone who stalls the neocon agenda is not all bad. The neocons are dangerous warmongers who would have no qualms about starting WW3. They are in our government. They endure while presidents of both parties either serve them or cannot get rid of them. Pardon me if I worry about saving my own country's ass before I worry about the LGBTs in Ukraine.