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49. monitoring of the lawful communications of employees of major international corporations

Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:19 PM

Feb 2015

"...shows that such statements by Obama, other U.S. officials and British leaders — that they only intercept and monitor the communications of known or suspected criminals or terrorists — were untrue. “The NSA and GCHQ view the private communications of people who work for these companies as fair game,” says the ACLU’s Soghoian. “These people were specifically hunted and targeted by intelligence agencies, not because they did anything wrong, but because they could be used as a means to an end.”

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US & UK spies hacked/stole encryption keys used to protect the privacy of cellphone communications [View all] bigtree Feb 2015 OP

I wonder what would happen if a private citizen did the same and claimed it was for Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #1

governments regularly violate laws and constitution with impunity now bigtree Feb 2015 #2

Yes. And, God help any journalists or whistleblowers who point that out. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #3

Law enforcement on all levels use any means at their disposal. lpbk2713 Feb 2015 #28

It's disgraceful Aerows Feb 2015 #69

They'd be in a SuperMax Aerows Feb 2015 #36

this is one of the biggest Snowden stories yet bigtree Feb 2015 #4

+10000000 Spot-on post. woo me with science Feb 2015 #11

this is an interesting link bigtree Feb 2015 #15

This should be an everyday OP Ramses Feb 2015 #19

It really is woo. Aerows Feb 2015 #29

Orwell is right! lovuian Feb 2015 #5

Exactly. Aerows Feb 2015 #33

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #6

Amen to that Aerows Feb 2015 #62

Isn't that what they're *supposed* to do? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #7

no bigtree Feb 2015 #8

EO 12333 seems to cover it...Just sayin' Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #9

it's theft; not just the SIM info, but the emails and other communication which led them to it bigtree Feb 2015 #13

Theft is apparantly okay Aerows Feb 2015 #73

So theft is legal Aerows Feb 2015 #34

who here at DU, thinks a cellphone is secure and/or private? ...nt quadrature Feb 2015 #10

more important to this debate bigtree Feb 2015 #14

completely wrong.. the cellphone company can always listen quadrature Feb 2015 #16

Nice evasion of the question. Aerows Feb 2015 #21

any supposed 'privacy', gives a falses sense of security quadrature Feb 2015 #23

LOL! Aerows Feb 2015 #24

kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #12

I really don't want Aerows Feb 2015 #31

This goes hand in hand Aerows Feb 2015 #17

Thats why they will wholeheartedly support Hillary just like Obama Ramses Feb 2015 #20

The evidence is all over the forum. Aerows Feb 2015 #22

Some people must agree with Bush Ramses Feb 2015 #25

Exactly, Ramses Aerows Feb 2015 #27

Does not surprise me in the least Ramses Feb 2015 #18

Theft Aerows Feb 2015 #71

Kick Aerows Feb 2015 #26

K&R! nt riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #30

Rather odd Aerows Feb 2015 #37

kick bigtree Feb 2015 #32

BREAKING: Spy agency in charge of breaking encryption and spying on communications DOES SO! MohRokTah Feb 2015 #35

govt. defenders downplay NSA spying and theft from individuals committing no crime at all bigtree Feb 2015 #39

There is nothing in the documents that says anything about spying on anybody in the US MohRokTah Feb 2015 #40

that's not the point of those with objections bigtree Feb 2015 #41

Are you naive? MohRokTah Feb 2015 #42

there's the ridicule bigtree Feb 2015 #43

There's the naivte MohRokTah Feb 2015 #44

ACLU is naive about taking the President's word bigtree Feb 2015 #45

The world spies on each other MohRokTah Feb 2015 #46

The bottom line bigtree Feb 2015 #47

And that's what's happening. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #48

monitoring of the lawful communications of employees of major international corporations bigtree Feb 2015 #49

And they WERE fair game. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #51

it is government massively engaging in illegal activities bigtree Feb 2015 #52

It is government massively engaging in the same activities EVERY government engages in. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #53

That's a classic to quoque argument Fumesucker Feb 2015 #55

You are completely wrong. Vattel Feb 2015 #54

Clearly fair game. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #56

I get it. Your claim is that what Obama said was true Vattel Feb 2015 #58

. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #59

. bigtree Feb 2015 #60

To be fair Egnever Feb 2015 #67

BREAKING: Bank robbers rob banks! Murderers murder! Rapists Rape! Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #70

kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #38

Either everybody is snowed in Aerows Feb 2015 #50

it's a 9-11-like response to the latest terror reporting bigtree Feb 2015 #57

I *always* get nervous Aerows Feb 2015 #61

kick Vattel Feb 2015 #63

Yep, kickity kick kick kick n/t Aerows Feb 2015 #72

Amazing how key information Aerows Feb 2015 #64

Isn't it. woo me with science Feb 2015 #65

They haven't decided on a talking point yet. Vattel Feb 2015 #66

That's why I posted my other thread Aerows Feb 2015 #68