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Octafish

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Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:01 PM Feb 2015

How the CIA gets away with it: Our democracy is their real enemy [View all]

The inside, untold story of CIA's efforts to mislead Congress -- and the people -- about torture will horrify you

SCOTT HORTON
Salon.com, Feb. 21, 2015

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Indeed, the dynamics had changed dramatically after the coordinated terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. In the ensuing years, the CIA’s budget ballooned to more than double its pre-2001 numbers. Moreover, it got the go-ahead to launch programs previously denied or sidetracked, and clearance to encroach on the Pentagon’s turf through extensive operations using armed predator drones. Washington, it seemed, had forgotten how to say no to Langley. Still, the operation of the black site and EIT program involves a strikingly different dynamic—because the spring that fed it came not out of Langley but from the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, inside the White House.

Senior figures in the CIA, including the agency’s senior career lawyer, John Rizzo, fully appreciated that the black sites and the EITs presented particularly dangerous territory. Exposure of these programs could damage some of the agency’s tightest points of collaboration with foreign intelligence services—authoritarian regimes such as Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Pakistan, Thailand, and Yemen, as well as among new democracies of Eastern Europe, like Lithuania, Poland, and Romania. British intelligence had been deeply involved and feared exposure, considering the domestic political opposition and the rigorous attitude of British courts.

CIA leadership was also focused on the high likelihood that the program, once exposed, would lead to a press for criminal prosecutions under various statutes, including the anti-torture act. It therefore moved preemptively, seeking assurances and an opinion from the Justice Department that would serve as a “get out of jail free” card for agents involved in the program. But when those opinions were disclosed, starting hard on the heels of photographic evidence of abuse at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq—much of it eerily similar to techniques discussed in the Justice Department opinions—a political firestorm erupted around the world. The Justice Department was forced to withdraw most of the opinions even before George W. Bush left Washington.

Leon Panetta, arriving at the CIA in 2009, found top management preoccupied with concerns about fallout from this program.

The CIA chose to react to plans for a congressional probe cautiously, with a series of tactical maneuvers and skirmishes. Its strategy was apparent from the beginning: slow the review down while hoping for a change in the political winds that might end it. And from the outset it made use of one essential weapon against its congressional overseers—secrecy. For the agency, secrecy was not just a way of life; it was also a path to power. It wielded secrecy as a shield against embarrassing disclosures and as a sword to silence and threaten adversaries. It was an all-purpose tool.

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http://www.salon.com/2015/02/21/how_the_cia_gets_away_with_it_our_democracy_is_their_real_enemy/
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Sunlight is democracy. nt CJCRANE Feb 2015 #1
Secret government means no accountability. Also makes clear who the Enemy is: Us. Octafish Feb 2015 #3
+1000 JonLP24 Feb 2015 #44
K&R for reading later grasswire Feb 2015 #2
Horton's got a book coming. Octafish Feb 2015 #5
I read somewhere that Michael Hastings next subject matter was to be Brennan. mother earth Feb 2015 #25
Shine a big bright beam JEB Feb 2015 #58
another villain here grasswire Feb 2015 #4
Eatinger may have actually helped the CIA's enemy. Octafish Feb 2015 #7
The Orwellian doublethink never ends. robertpaulsen Feb 2015 #6
Church piped up, then the NSA got turned on him and soon Church was out of a job. Octafish Feb 2015 #8
And we are still expected to believe we live in a free country. The Torture Report seems to have sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #46
Classification in order to cover a crime hootinholler Feb 2015 #9
Too many secrets for proper supervision, let alone Justice. Octafish Feb 2015 #13
Murderers, torturers, blackmailers, paid thugs, above the law and protected by politicians. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #10
Tradition! Octafish Feb 2015 #14
k&r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #11
We went from being the world's police man to being the World Police State. Octafish Feb 2015 #15
I have mixed feelings about all this information you are giving us here. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #17
I keep unplugging the computer, then something happens and I have to plug it back in. Octafish Feb 2015 #20
well well grasswire Feb 2015 #30
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Feb 2015 #12
When CIA doen't like the president, they'll wait until they have one they like. Octafish Feb 2015 #19
A lot of good stuff in this thread...K&R zeemike Feb 2015 #16
Carlyle Group private bank owns NSA go-to spyhaus Booz Allen Hamilton. Octafish Feb 2015 #21
Not odd at all Octafish, their JOB is to make sure it doesn't get out to the public. They are sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #47
K & R! mother earth Feb 2015 #18
Agents for Bush Octafish Feb 2015 #22
And today they are looking to sonny boy #2 to continue their carnage. mother earth Feb 2015 #23
About that terrorism/anti-terrorism theme... Octafish Feb 2015 #24
A little snippet from Kos... mother earth Feb 2015 #27
Jeb Bush grasswire Feb 2015 #31
Cheney should have been arrested, tried, convicted and hanged hifiguy Feb 2015 #26
The fact he walks free shows that this is not a democracy. Octafish Feb 2015 #33
K & R! neverforget Feb 2015 #28
Scott Horton is TOPS! The guy kept Gov. Don Siegelman's story in the spotlight. Octafish Feb 2015 #34
this is a fantastic read -- i especially like how Scott Horton nashville_brook Feb 2015 #29
The Senator from Pentagonia Octafish Feb 2015 #32
I had no idea that a war contractor operated the Sunlight Foundation. octoberlib Feb 2015 #36
The Aspens...roots...underground... Octafish Feb 2015 #37
Thanks for the link! I always learn something new every time you post. octoberlib Feb 2015 #38
K&R Thank you. This is a horrifying thread, woo me with science Feb 2015 #35
Secret Government and Secret Laws are un-American. Octafish Feb 2015 #52
Speaking of secrecy... woo me with science Feb 2015 #59
K,R, and Bookmarked. bvar22 Feb 2015 #39
All the good threads Aerows Feb 2015 #41
Great thread, Octafish Aerows Feb 2015 #40
Most CIA are TOPS! Patriots. Public Servants. Good all-around Joes and Janes. Octafish Feb 2015 #55
CIA is worse than any gang, criminal organization, etc JonLP24 Feb 2015 #42
Our justice system is the exact opposite -- dominated by Rightists. Octafish Feb 2015 #54
In addition to all these great CIA articles JonLP24 Feb 2015 #43
Manny, is that you? Octafish Feb 2015 #56
When it comes down to it, they are people Aerows Feb 2015 #45
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #48
I'm only 66 years old, but it appears to me Democracy died in America on November 22, 1963. Scuba Feb 2015 #49
I hope you're taking care of yourself. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #51
I try. Scuba Feb 2015 #53
k & freaking r! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #50
Kick. JEB Feb 2015 #57
Another kick. bvar22 Feb 2015 #60
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