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MFrohike

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89. Two questions

Sat Feb 21, 2015, 03:36 PM

Feb 2015

1. Were the donations not made or did her foundation refuse to accept them?

2. Could we get an approved list of liberal-left-not right sources?

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The origin of a RW hack job that some lefties fall for.... [View all] boston bean Feb 2015 OP

Can you imagine all the lost media ad revenue if The Game is over before half time? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #1

So sad that even on on DU Hillary haters have to resort to FAUX to make their "case." MoonRiver Feb 2015 #2

And some RW media website "pledges" a million dollars....same apoleptic response. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #3

Yeah shenmue Feb 2015 #6

Absolutely! MoonRiver Feb 2015 #7

You mean the same Faux Nooz, whose owner held fundraisers for her in 2008? Fuddnik Feb 2015 #52

Hillary's ties to lobbyists aren't a right-wing creation Enrique Feb 2015 #4

Oh noes! Hillary only gets her money from poor people and, um, angels. djean111 Feb 2015 #10

Criticizing her for big corporate donors is silly treestar Feb 2015 #12

And then, of course, we are admonished that OF COURSE the elected one has to please their big djean111 Feb 2015 #15

How can they "please" them? treestar Feb 2015 #20

I do not buy that lessening regulations on wall Street will avoid a recession. djean111 Feb 2015 #24

who could this be... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #129

You invented all that stuff treestar Feb 2015 #178

How has Hillary claimed she want to regulate them less? treestar Feb 2015 #195

there is a way to fix that.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #28

Oh, I don't think Hillary is going to regulate Wall Street. Which vote are you referring to? djean111 Feb 2015 #32

"you don't think" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #38

No, not when she gives speeches to banks saying we are just being mean to them. djean111 Feb 2015 #41

She gives lots of speeches....and she raises money for lots of philanthropic causes too... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #43

Oh good grief. This is my last response to you today. "lots of speeches" - which is where you get djean111 Feb 2015 #48

Of course it is....when you have no evidence to support your theory....that is what one does... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #50

... The good old fashioned announced ignore. Agschmid Feb 2015 #90

What speech? treestar Feb 2015 #196

I think "we" is us stupid liberal Lefties. djean111 Feb 2015 #198

sounds like an opinionated summary treestar Feb 2015 #205

Not alone in their opinion. djean111 Feb 2015 #207

Protip MFrohike Feb 2015 #74

No it doesn't ....none of her supporters consider her to be "some kind of Liberal Jesus" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #93

Well, no MFrohike Feb 2015 #116

My point is...her record shows she IS a Liberal Democrat. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #121

See, that's your problem MFrohike Feb 2015 #122

You see.....its not a problem... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #123

Not so much, no MFrohike Feb 2015 #124

OHHHH you want evidence.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #125

Heh MFrohike Feb 2015 #131

Oh I've read it...its you that needs to!... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #134

If you say so MFrohike Feb 2015 #137

Yeah I say so....and I have public records to prove it... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #140

Except you don't MFrohike Feb 2015 #144

Except I DO....those are all documented! READING is fundamental VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #146

Cool MFrohike Feb 2015 #148

and that is just ONE of many many many just like it that i have to support my contentions... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #150

In other words.. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #136

Cool MFrohike Feb 2015 #139

damn skippy.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #141

It could be that MFrohike Feb 2015 #143

Oh thats what you think? Could be that you have a preconceived notion based on VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #145

It could be MFrohike Feb 2015 #147

Or it could be that you wouldn't know what documented public records were...if they jumped up and VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #149

You must be tired MFrohike Feb 2015 #152

actually I am not....I am posting the actual record of this LIBERAL Democrat. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #157

I finally get it MFrohike Feb 2015 #159

No not "JUST" economic matters....OVERALL the woman is a Liberal Democrat... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #161

Well, make the argument MFrohike Feb 2015 #164

its not "walls of text"....its FACTS in Public Record...Every ONE of them sourced! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #167

Oh man, now you're condescending MFrohike Feb 2015 #172

No indentation and no punctuation.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #175

You're doing it wrong MFrohike Feb 2015 #177

In Summary VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #126

In summary MFrohike Feb 2015 #132

I have read my evidence thank you....it proves exactly what I am saying... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #151

Read the Social Security section MFrohike Feb 2015 #153

I have read it...thanks... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #155

No she does not, or more likely pretends not to /nt Dragonfli Feb 2015 #128

You got evidence of that? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #130

Why yes, you. You are the evidence /nt Dragonfli Feb 2015 #158

no but I DO have the evidence.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #160

Have you ever tried making this claim to a Republican? treestar Feb 2015 #197

Sigh MFrohike Feb 2015 #199

Bravo deutsey Feb 2015 #213

When she pulls that stuff out, it is best to give up discussing the content with her Dragonfli Feb 2015 #100

Except my arguments stem from actual facts..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #127

This is kind of fun MFrohike Feb 2015 #135

badly reasoned arguments? I just laid out abortion in response to another post...lets move on to VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #138

hahahahahahhahahahahahahaha MFrohike Feb 2015 #142

Oh looks like you need another topic...lets see... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #154

Woo MFrohike Feb 2015 #162

Woo my butt.....the public record is there... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #163

At least I picked MFrohike Feb 2015 #166

I didn't have to "pick" its public record...AND sourced... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #168

Comedy MFrohike Feb 2015 #170

Well there ya go, have fun with that Dragonfli Feb 2015 #156

and you have something that supports this in public record do you? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #165

Why yes, you just posted it, thanks for that by the way. /nt Dragonfli Feb 2015 #169

Item #1 is OpEd: Disagrees with progressives on corporatism & military. (Dec 2014)� TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #180

that is not the full record though is it? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #182

and here you go... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #183

Perhaps you should read further...its about a "total score" what we Democrats like to call a RECORD. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #184

Well then how about criticizing her for this. A Simple Game Feb 2015 #27

Exactly not even Obama.... Historic NY Feb 2015 #51

Criticizing ONLY her would be silly. Orsino Feb 2015 #57

Just how do you expect someone pure enough to get elected? treestar Feb 2015 #200

I don't buy that framing. Orsino Feb 2015 #212

Downplaying its importance is legitimate argumentation. Calling it "LIES" is, itself, a lie. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #95

Poor people don't donate to candidates. They need to eat. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #14

I do not see Hillary as "relatively progressive". She is not for anything progressive, IMO, before djean111 Feb 2015 #17

Care to answer my question? nt SunSeeker Feb 2015 #18

Your question, with the "besides Hillary" part, is illogical or something. False premise. djean111 Feb 2015 #25

Oh really? Whats so "NOT at all Progressive" about this record? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #133

Not for anything "relatively progressive"? Really now? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #31

"Strongly favors" doesn't mean anything these days, sorry. djean111 Feb 2015 #37

Of course not in YOUR world view it doesn't.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #40

I am starting to believe you honestly feel no one should have a "world view" that you do not djean111 Feb 2015 #44

I am starting to think that you don't believe Hillary Clinton has a public record of what she has VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #47

Of course you're right, VR. Hillary is a progressive by any definition. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #46

EXACTLY.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #49

So why was there a Civil Rights Act, a Social Security Act, etc? treestar Feb 2015 #21

I totally agree with you, treestar. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #61

wow that's inspiring ND-Dem Feb 2015 #23

How is this for inspiring.. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #33

gee, shouldn't this come with a multitude of blue links? bbgrunt Feb 2015 #58

Your bullying of DUers for posting facts is disgusting. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #65

I was waiting for this one treestar Feb 2015 #201

It isn't an issue specific to Hillary, as the articles make it appear. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #26

People can be easily manipulated and it's all about $$$$$. Fox and the RW are very skilled RKP5637 Feb 2015 #5

Many corps will donate to BOTH parties just to deflect - Can anyone here HONESTLY blm Feb 2015 #8

And remember...M$NBC Just fredamae Feb 2015 #9

Uh they haven't announced that.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #34

Yes, thank you-it is my opinion...n/t fredamae Feb 2015 #42

My problem with this and other smears is making a mountain out of a molehill OKNancy Feb 2015 #11

I agree Andy823 Feb 2015 #13

Couldn't Clinton easily dispel these concerns by echoing Warren and Sanders? fbc Feb 2015 #16

Her advisers will tell her when it is okay to parrot Warren and Sanders, okay? djean111 Feb 2015 #22

Her actions speak louder than her words. Whose lobbying as First Lady was critical pnwmom Feb 2015 #29

she can easily dispel it with her own record... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2015 #19

+1 marym625 Feb 2015 #68

Why does no one post the headers when they post this table? Agschmid Feb 2015 #91

Because then they wouldn't be able to lie about what the table means. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #114

Indeed, I always notice that there are NO headers ever when that table is posted. Agschmid Feb 2015 #115

Is the header supposed to be reassuring? progressoid Feb 2015 #192

You skipped part... Agschmid Feb 2015 #194

Why? The employees may not be "rich." treestar Feb 2015 #202

Bwahahahahahahaaa. progressoid Feb 2015 #208

Are you claiming everyone who works for Goldman Sachs treestar Feb 2015 #210

Nope. progressoid Feb 2015 #211

How Funny,,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #30

Just so I understand this inanity whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #35

Oh, just for Hillary. You understand correctly. djean111 Feb 2015 #39

It is applicable when convenient like to attack an actual liberal or of course a TeaPubliKlan TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #54

About sums it up whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #56

so true bbgrunt Feb 2015 #60

And if you notice, there's no refutation of the bare facts of who's donated. Lars39 Feb 2015 #82

Of course not, the only response is spin or flat denials of reality. Conservatives excel at both. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #88

I just hope that no lefties fall for the premise Broward Feb 2015 #45

HDS is alive and well here. riqster Feb 2015 #53

It's not quite "LIES" -- it's disingenuous muckraking. cheapdate Feb 2015 #55

Uh-oh. WSJ just wrote the Earth is round MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #59

I've been a member for 25 years. zappaman Feb 2015 #63

A Reichwinger Tried That On Me Leith Feb 2015 #62

3 things ellennelle Feb 2015 #64

K & R Iliyah Feb 2015 #66

Lots of us recognize them for the right-wing hatchet jobs they are... SidDithers Feb 2015 #67

Yes, Canadians should set DU policy whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #70

As an American (not sure why in the hell that matters, but...) Sid is 100% correct. NYC Liberal Feb 2015 #83

You mean whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #85

DU is not limited to Americans treestar Feb 2015 #203

That goes both ways marym625 Feb 2015 #71

Sometimes the poster is a fraud...nt SidDithers Feb 2015 #76

Really? marym625 Feb 2015 #77

Sure. What would you call someone who's been banned multiple times... SidDithers Feb 2015 #80

exactly what did I say that has anything to do with that? marym625 Feb 2015 #81

Waffles are real, however you cut them. Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #92

A little consistency would be nice, Sid.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #72

plus.1 n/t Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #73

Bashing from the left and bashing from the right have the same result...nt SidDithers Feb 2015 #75

Exactly, neither results in any effect on your life Fumesucker Feb 2015 #84

Please provide the link you reference where Sid says a DUer is "too far to the left." SunSeeker Feb 2015 #78

This is the most recent example.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #86

I remember that marym625 Feb 2015 #96

Oh yeah? Well how about an example where Sid wasn't right about it? MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #97

That doesn't say woo is "too far to the left." SunSeeker Feb 2015 #98

Personally I think Sid rises to the level of performance art and bit past that Fumesucker Feb 2015 #99

No. He's criticizing the destructive use of GOP propaganda to bash a fellow Dem. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #102

What woo says is a long way indeed from GOP talking points.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #103

Bull. There was a post in GD on 2-14-15 pulled straight from a right wing site. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #107

I've seen Skinner post Andrew Sullivan approvingly.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #108

Skinner cited Sullivan when he was actually telling the truth about Obama. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #109

Wait, I thought we were talking about woo? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #110

We're talking about DUers using right wing propaganda against Dems. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #112

You were talking about woo.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #113

I was responding to your assertion about woo, and disputing your characterization of S id's post. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #117

Well according to his response to me marym625 Feb 2015 #79

does HRC favor corporate coups like xl, TPP, aca, and charter schools? Doctor_J Feb 2015 #69

+1 marym625 Feb 2015 #87

The ACA saved my brother's life. It was not a "corporate coup." SunSeeker Feb 2015 #105

healthcare would also have saved your brothers life. we didn't have to sign over Doctor_J Feb 2015 #171

Bullshit. My brother's pre-existing condition made it impossible for him to get coverage. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #173

voters from 2008 stayed home in 2010 because Obama sold them out on every issue Doctor_J Feb 2015 #174

Obama did a lot for us. We didn't have the votes for a public option, let alone Medicare for All. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #185

XL and TPP I understand your confusion....but the ACA and Charter Schools WTF??? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #204

ACA was written by the heritage foundation. Obama's education scheme continues the Doctor_J Feb 2015 #209

Two questions MFrohike Feb 2015 #89

The Media Matters article is specifically about the receipt of donations from foreign sources. Maedhros Feb 2015 #94

I guess you're trying to make the case obxhead Feb 2015 #101

Oh my god this is so lame. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #104

what did hillary say. a VAST rite wing conspiracy. pansypoo53219 Feb 2015 #106

"lefties"? progressoid Feb 2015 #111

Lefties is used by Conservatives as a pejorative. Most "Lefties" wear the label proudly. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #188

Yep. progressoid Feb 2015 #191

Especially DINOs, BOGgers, PUMAs, Turd Way, and moles Doctor_J Feb 2015 #193

I'm all for the facts coming out and not distorted by rw hacks or any Hacks for that matter.. Cha Feb 2015 #118

If what they report is false then make that argument. It seems the only argument we see from rhett o rick Feb 2015 #119

+1,000 Scuba Feb 2015 #181

Then you're not paying attention. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #186

Again, I never see anything of substance. Of course Sen Warren is going to be polite rhett o rick Feb 2015 #187

So you're calling Warren a phony liar. Nice. nt SunSeeker Feb 2015 #189

BTW, if you "never see anything of substance," it is because you aren't looking. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #190

Doesn't look like there is a lot of money in the Clinton Foundation. Rex Feb 2015 #120

Hillary haters using WSJ and Fox propaganda now? workinclasszero Feb 2015 #176

On any given day just Google the "issue" and "Fox News." joshcryer Feb 2015 #179

Where is the defense of Nader when similar claims are made? nt Bonobo Feb 2015 #206