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DanTex

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38. I'll flip that back on you, what horrible things has she done that warrant all the hatred?

Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:26 PM

Feb 2015

And what horrible things do you think she would do as president?

I'm not claiming she was a hugely consequential senator or secretary of state. She wasn't. Part of that, of course, was that being senator under Bush.

I'm concerned about what she will be like as president. Judging from her votes and her stated opinions, the answer is, about like Obama, which is pretty good. I don't think there would be much difference between Pres Hillary and Pres Warren. Both will be pulling congress to the left.

BTW, if you think Warren is an unimpeachable liberal, think again. And I'm not talking about being a Republican in the 90s. She's got positions even today that I'm sure you disagree with. It's an easy google. For example, from this article:
--voted with GOP limiting rights of Gitmo prisoners
--opposed medical device tax
--supported reducing estate tax
--against GMO labelling
http://www.nationaljournal.com/2013-vote-ratings/why-elizabeth-warren-isn-t-the-most-liberal-senator-20140206

Does that make her Satan? No. It makes her someone I agree with mostly, but not always, but also I realize she faces political pressures.

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How long until the Hillary haters on DU start talking about "Benghazi!!!!" [View all] DanTex Feb 2015 OP

countdown.. 3..2..1 Peacetrain Feb 2015 #1

Don't tempt them! TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #2

Pretty sure it's happened already... Agschmid Feb 2015 #3

If they are -REALLY- haters, why wouldn't they take it back to Wellsley thesis-gate? HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #4

It doesn't matter Gman Feb 2015 #5

Yup. Agschmid Feb 2015 #14

Yup... SidDithers Feb 2015 #48

Not to mention Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #6

Oh fuck. I forgot about Vince Foster. onehandle Feb 2015 #9

Actually, I do have a "Vince Foster changed the Benghazi talking points" joke.... JHB Feb 2015 #36

What's been stopping anyone discussing it before now? n/t winter is coming Feb 2015 #7

I like both Hillary and Elizabeth. Is that wrong? Kingofalldems Feb 2015 #8

I don't get it either. And neither do they: they like each other. DanTex Feb 2015 #10

Too much emotion Aviation_Semi-Pro Feb 2015 #22

You can't like both. onehandle Feb 2015 #13

Same. Agschmid Feb 2015 #15

Same here. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2015 #16

Puzzling MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #28

Really? Why is that puzzling? DanTex Feb 2015 #33

What would you say are Hillary's five greatest accomplishments MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #35

I'll flip that back on you, what horrible things has she done that warrant all the hatred? DanTex Feb 2015 #38

Most Democrats voted against war in Iraq MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #49

She voted for the Iraq War. Mistake, no doubt about it. As she has said. DanTex Feb 2015 #50

There's never been a full accounting of what went on in Libya-- TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #11

Trust me, I won't mention it JonLP24 Feb 2015 #12

That Molly Ivins quote pretty much sums it up. DanTex Feb 2015 #19

That will be the top reced thread tomorrow. iandhr Feb 2015 #17

Why? Did she do something wrong (or, conversely, good) at Benghazi? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #18

And that Mena airport thingy! Kingofalldems Feb 2015 #20

Did you know that the Clinton Foundation has taken over the money laundering aspect msanthrope Feb 2015 #23

Um--I offer this short thread, sans commentary..... msanthrope Feb 2015 #21

preemptive, hypothetical, anti-DU shitstirring carolinayellowdog Feb 2015 #24

With your thread? WinkyDink Feb 2015 #25

Well, there is this one, with enthusiastic embellishments ... Hekate Feb 2015 #26

Did Ben Ghazi know Vince Foster? guillaumeb Feb 2015 #27

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #29

Haha, good one. Agschmid Feb 2015 #41

They have a circuit they follow, just wait. Just like recycled emails from RWNJs. we can do it Feb 2015 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2015 #31

Well calling Hillary Supporters "Pushers" and "Worshippers" among other things VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #34

The two examples I listed, for starters. DanTex Feb 2015 #40

It's all over, no list needed. Agschmid Feb 2015 #42

No need to talk aboult BS like that. Her actual associations speak for themselves hifiguy Feb 2015 #32

Embarrassed I don't automatically recognize him but who is the guy in picture 2? Agschmid Feb 2015 #43

Lloyd Blankfein hifiguy Feb 2015 #46

Thanks. Agschmid Feb 2015 #51

Agreed~ sheshe2 Feb 2015 #56

And here's FDR getting chummy with mass murderer Stalin! NYC Liberal Feb 2015 #58

That is not "getting chummy" Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #68

+2 LittleBlue Feb 2015 #65

So far the Republicans have not been able to put a handle on Benghazi and I doubt Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #37

the scandal was not Benghazi DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #39

What a load of taurine metabolic byproducts. hobbit709 Feb 2015 #44

I don't care for Hilary... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #45

The Right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary... SidDithers Feb 2015 #47

Ah, yes, "the same bashing" -- all those right-wingers who criticize her support for imperialism. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #69

I have a mutual fund that contains HSBC< so I guess I am a criminal based on that logic still_one Feb 2015 #52

Well so far, its only you. Ironic, ain't it? /nt demwing Feb 2015 #53

I won't support Hillary for far more credible policy reasons. EEO Feb 2015 #54

Well said. nt Sienna86 Feb 2015 #55

+1 840high Feb 2015 #60

How long until the Hillary haters on DU start talking about "Benghazi!!!!" workinclasszero Feb 2015 #57

I don't actually think I've seen anyone here saying they don't want Hillary as nominee... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #59

Actually, a lot of the objections seem to come from neither left nor right, but from outer space. DanTex Feb 2015 #61

Did anyone think Obama had a real chance at this point in 2007? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #62

Yes. I, for one. And so did a lot of people in the Democratic party. DanTex Feb 2015 #63

I clearly don't think those things, however. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #64

And so I'm not talking about you. DanTex Feb 2015 #66

I respect Hillary. She's a winner. Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Feb 2015 #70

FFS, what a stupid post! Nt Logical Feb 2015 #71