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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
52. Secret Government and Secret Laws are un-American.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:56 AM
Feb 2015

No telling who is responsible, who benefits, who pays.

This got published in the Washington Post and, evidently, few other newspapers at the time:



Limit CIA Role To Intelligence

By Harry S Truman
The Washington Post, December 22, 1963 - page A11

INDEPENDENCE, MO., Dec. 21 — I think it has become necessary to take another look at the purpose and operations of our Central Intelligence Agency—CIA. At least, I would like to submit here the original reason why I thought it necessary to organize this Agency during my Administration, what I expected it to do and how it was to operate as an arm of the President.

I think it is fairly obvious that by and large a President's performance in office is as effective as the information he has and the information he gets. That is to say, that assuming the President himself possesses a knowledge of our history, a sensitive understanding of our institutions, and an insight into the needs and aspirations of the people, he needs to have available to him the most accurate and up-to-the-minute information on what is going on everywhere in the world, and particularly of the trends and developments in all the danger spots in the contest between East and West. This is an immense task and requires a special kind of an intelligence facility.

Of course, every President has available to him all the information gathered by the many intelligence agencies already in existence. The Departments of State, Defense, Commerce, Interior and others are constantly engaged in extensive information gathering and have done excellent work.

But their collective information reached the President all too frequently in conflicting conclusions. At times, the intelligence reports tended to be slanted to conform to established positions of a given department. This becomes confusing and what's worse, such intelligence is of little use to a President in reaching the right decisions.

Therefore, I decided to set up a special organization charged with the collection of all intelligence reports from every available source, and to have those reports reach me as President without department "treatment" or interpretations.

I wanted and needed the information in its "natural raw" state and in as comprehensive a volume as it was practical for me to make full use of it. But the most important thing about this move was to guard against the chance of intelligence being used to influence or to lead the President into unwise decisions—and I thought it was necessary that the President do his own thinking and evaluating.

Since the responsibility for decision making was his—then he had to be sure that no information is kept from him for whatever reason at the discretion of any one department or agency, or that unpleasant facts be kept from him. There are always those who would want to shield a President from bad news or misjudgments to spare him from being "upset."

For some time I have been disturbed by the way CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas.

I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations. Some of the complications and embarrassment I think we have experienced are in part attributable to the fact that this quiet intelligence arm of the President has been so removed from its intended role that it is being interpreted as a symbol of sinister and mysterious foreign intrigue—and a subject for cold war enemy propaganda.

With all the nonsense put out by Communist propaganda about "Yankee imperialism," "exploitive capitalism," "war-mongering," "monopolists," in their name-calling assault on the West, the last thing we needed was for the CIA to be seized upon as something akin to a subverting influence in the affairs of other people.

I well knew the first temporary director of the CIA, Adm. Souers, and the later permanent directors of the CIA, Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg and Allen Dulles. These were men of the highest character, patriotism and integrity—and I assume this is true of all those who continue in charge.

But there are now some searching questions that need to be answered. I, therefore, would like to see the CIA be restored to its original assignment as the intelligence arm of the President, and that whatever else it can properly perform in that special field—and that its operational duties be terminated or properly used elsewhere.

We have grown up as a nation, respected for our free institutions and for our ability to maintain a free and open society. There is something about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it.

SOURCE: http://www.maebrussell.com/Prouty/Harry%20Truman's%20CIA%20article.html



So. One month after the assassination, President Truman expressed public concern CIA had strayed off the reservation from intelligence gathering of foreign news sources to cloak-and-dagger operations. Time -- and the Church Committee -- has since shown CIA operated, illegally, domestically.

Allen Dulles, on behalf of CIA, even asked Truman to retract it. From Ray McGovern...



Fox Guarding Hen House

The well-connected Dulles got himself appointed to the Warren Commission and took the lead in shaping the investigation of JFK’s assassination.

Documents in the Truman Library show that he then mounted a small domestic covert action of his own to neutralize any future airing of Truman’s and Souers’s warnings about covert action.

So important was this to Dulles that he invented a pretext to get himself invited to visit Truman in Independence, Missouri. On the afternoon of April 17, 1964, Dulles spent a half-hour trying to get the former President to retract what he had said in his op-ed. No dice, said Truman.

No problem, thought Dulles. Four days later, in a formal memo for his old buddy Lawrence Houston, CIA General Counsel from 1947 to 1973, Dulles fabricated a private retraction, claiming that Truman told him the Washington Post article was “all wrong,” and that Truman “seemed quite astounded at it.”

No doubt Dulles thought it might be handy to have such a memo in CIA files, just in case.

A fabricated retraction? It certainly seems so, because Truman did not change his tune. Far from it.

In a June 10, 1964, letter to the managing editor of Look magazine, for example, Truman restated his critique of covert action, emphasizing that he never intended the CIA to get involved in “strange activities.”

CONTINUED...

SOURCE: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/122909b.html



Thank you for standing up for Democracy, woo me with science. It's no joke, what is happening.
Sunlight is democracy. nt CJCRANE Feb 2015 #1
Secret government means no accountability. Also makes clear who the Enemy is: Us. Octafish Feb 2015 #3
+1000 JonLP24 Feb 2015 #44
K&R for reading later grasswire Feb 2015 #2
Horton's got a book coming. Octafish Feb 2015 #5
I read somewhere that Michael Hastings next subject matter was to be Brennan. mother earth Feb 2015 #25
Shine a big bright beam JEB Feb 2015 #58
another villain here grasswire Feb 2015 #4
Eatinger may have actually helped the CIA's enemy. Octafish Feb 2015 #7
The Orwellian doublethink never ends. robertpaulsen Feb 2015 #6
Church piped up, then the NSA got turned on him and soon Church was out of a job. Octafish Feb 2015 #8
And we are still expected to believe we live in a free country. The Torture Report seems to have sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #46
Classification in order to cover a crime hootinholler Feb 2015 #9
Too many secrets for proper supervision, let alone Justice. Octafish Feb 2015 #13
Murderers, torturers, blackmailers, paid thugs, above the law and protected by politicians. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #10
Tradition! Octafish Feb 2015 #14
k&r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #11
We went from being the world's police man to being the World Police State. Octafish Feb 2015 #15
I have mixed feelings about all this information you are giving us here. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #17
I keep unplugging the computer, then something happens and I have to plug it back in. Octafish Feb 2015 #20
well well grasswire Feb 2015 #30
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Feb 2015 #12
When CIA doen't like the president, they'll wait until they have one they like. Octafish Feb 2015 #19
A lot of good stuff in this thread...K&R zeemike Feb 2015 #16
Carlyle Group private bank owns NSA go-to spyhaus Booz Allen Hamilton. Octafish Feb 2015 #21
Not odd at all Octafish, their JOB is to make sure it doesn't get out to the public. They are sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #47
K & R! mother earth Feb 2015 #18
Agents for Bush Octafish Feb 2015 #22
And today they are looking to sonny boy #2 to continue their carnage. mother earth Feb 2015 #23
About that terrorism/anti-terrorism theme... Octafish Feb 2015 #24
A little snippet from Kos... mother earth Feb 2015 #27
Jeb Bush grasswire Feb 2015 #31
Cheney should have been arrested, tried, convicted and hanged hifiguy Feb 2015 #26
The fact he walks free shows that this is not a democracy. Octafish Feb 2015 #33
K & R! neverforget Feb 2015 #28
Scott Horton is TOPS! The guy kept Gov. Don Siegelman's story in the spotlight. Octafish Feb 2015 #34
this is a fantastic read -- i especially like how Scott Horton nashville_brook Feb 2015 #29
The Senator from Pentagonia Octafish Feb 2015 #32
I had no idea that a war contractor operated the Sunlight Foundation. octoberlib Feb 2015 #36
The Aspens...roots...underground... Octafish Feb 2015 #37
Thanks for the link! I always learn something new every time you post. octoberlib Feb 2015 #38
K&R Thank you. This is a horrifying thread, woo me with science Feb 2015 #35
Secret Government and Secret Laws are un-American. Octafish Feb 2015 #52
Speaking of secrecy... woo me with science Feb 2015 #59
K,R, and Bookmarked. bvar22 Feb 2015 #39
All the good threads Aerows Feb 2015 #41
Great thread, Octafish Aerows Feb 2015 #40
Most CIA are TOPS! Patriots. Public Servants. Good all-around Joes and Janes. Octafish Feb 2015 #55
CIA is worse than any gang, criminal organization, etc JonLP24 Feb 2015 #42
Our justice system is the exact opposite -- dominated by Rightists. Octafish Feb 2015 #54
In addition to all these great CIA articles JonLP24 Feb 2015 #43
Manny, is that you? Octafish Feb 2015 #56
When it comes down to it, they are people Aerows Feb 2015 #45
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #48
I'm only 66 years old, but it appears to me Democracy died in America on November 22, 1963. Scuba Feb 2015 #49
I hope you're taking care of yourself. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #51
I try. Scuba Feb 2015 #53
k & freaking r! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #50
Kick. JEB Feb 2015 #57
Another kick. bvar22 Feb 2015 #60
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