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In reply to the discussion: Las Vegas Republican calls for ‘hot little girls’ to be armed to stop campus rapes [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)109. I think you're confused.
Last edited Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:01 PM - Edit history (1)
Allowing within her personal space. If it became known that women were concealed carrying, the likely result is that in the first few moments of the attack, the rapist would search for a gun and disarm the woman and probably use the gun to facilitate the rape. Rape is a crime where the rapist overpowers their victim physically or through coercion with a weapon. A gun is not going to help a person in an acquaintance rape or a rape facilitated with a weapon or alcohol/drugs.
Uh...ok?
The scenario you are imagining is an unknown assailant trying to chase down a woman in a lot or park and she has time before the rapist closes the distance to draw her weapon and fire. That's not a typical campus rape situation.
What "scenario" am I imagining? I didn't even chime in on the topic at all initially, except to question an obviously dumb unreflective of reality, statement.
And by the way, are you considering that in a concealed carry campus, guys would be carrying too and could simply pull their guns out at the very beginning and demand the woman disrobe, effectively disarming them as well in the process?
I wasn't aware that CCW holders were noteworthy for their contributions to rape statististics, or that rapists were generally in the habit of bothering with permits.
Guns are not the answer to this problem.
Please show me where I said they were.
None of the above is really relevant to what I DID write, which was a response to this statement:
"In what bizarro world does the government renounce mandate to protect the public and opt for violent vigilante street justice at the end of a gun as the only way women can avoid a rapist?"
The author of those words, implies that a woman defending herself from a rapist by using a gun, is "violent vigilante street justice at the end of a gun".
I very much disagree with that statement, and so I responded:
In what bizarro world, is defending ones self with a firearm against someone intent on raping you, in any way equivalent to "violent vigilante street justice at the end of a gun"?
Maybe you will take a stab at answering it, instead of attributing to me, scenarios you imagine I imagined, and arguments I did not make.
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Las Vegas Republican calls for ‘hot little girls’ to be armed to stop campus rapes [View all]
DonViejo
Feb 2015
OP
The mind boggles. Should toddlers be given guns to ward off pedophiles?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2015
#1
And yet, anyone seriously suggesting such a thing would be laughed out of the room
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#34
So you support the drug war, with its attending costs both in money and human lives.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#44
Unless all rapes involve "completely drunk" females your argument is specious (and sexist).
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#50
Ah, so you're arguing from the 'once is too much' for people being raped, but not
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Feb 2015
#51
I think alcohol prohibition was a glaring, first tier example of a ban that DID NOT work.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2015
#41
exactly, they are arguing against all laws now. Because this topic has no context....
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#67
Well maybe you should do some research. Lawrence v. Texas, a fairly important SCOTUS decision.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2015
#91
Yes, I should have gone ahead and made those exceptions plain early on
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Feb 2015
#96
Look, man. I've got alcoholism all over my family tree like a bad set of christmas lights.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2015
#99
If the prohibition is lifted you don't really have much say in the matter.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#62
A meaningless pledge that has no legal enforcement. It's pathetically comical, actually.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#65
Just like the RWers that refuse to treat children, except you are paid in advance.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#68
When someone holds their prejudices higher than the inherent rights of innocent people and then
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#75
You're hiding behind accusations of lying but I'm curious to know how you imagine a paid alleged
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#80
Nobody is making you own a gun just as my using birth control doesn't diminish someone else's
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#82
You have neither the authority nor the ability to enforce your personal prejudices.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#84
Why bother responding to the talk of idiots, just let them keep on talking.
Fred Sanders
Feb 2015
#5
Yep, her solution is to add another level of violence into the scenario. How pathetic, she is.
RKP5637
Feb 2015
#63
I don't think this bill would affect the spaces where the partying goes on: the bill
petronius
Feb 2015
#92
You do know that the police have no legal obligation to protect you, personally, right?
X_Digger
Feb 2015
#37
Most college rape is date or acquaintance rape. In other words it's a guy a woman is already
stevenleser
Feb 2015
#107
Of course you can disagree, but your argument isn't producing the results you want.
procon
Feb 2015
#110
Nope, I'm not. You are passive-aggressively defending the call for moar gunz
stevenleser
Feb 2015
#111
Exactly what I thought. What you wrote is simply an indirect support of guns. Nt
stevenleser
Feb 2015
#113
WTF! Guns, guns, guns are always the solution. Is that all they can some up with,
RKP5637
Feb 2015
#61
Just another right wing republican trying to force her gundamentalist religion on others.
stone space
Feb 2015
#73