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ProfessionalLeftist

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39. Who is being narcissistic when it comes to insulting "jokes" depends on the situation
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:51 AM
Apr 2012

Generally speaking, narcissists are the people who package insults inside of a "joke" and then when the subject of said "joke" finds it hurtful and complains , the subject is accused of having no sense of humor and being "too sensitive". But the real problem is that the narcissist who packaged the insult inside of a joke is not sensitive enough or they wouldn't be insulting someone and expecting to get away with it. Besides narcissists, they're also called sociopaths and and just plain verbal abusers. They're the ones bullying and taunting other kids on the playground or the man who makes hurtful jokes about his wife - TO his wife, either when they're alone or in front of other people - or the employer who taunts an employee with insulting "jokes". In these cases, such behavior is unacceptable and the "jokester" needs to learn some sensitivity.

But -- Keith, being a public figure, might expect that sometimes he will be 'roasted' at events like that one and it would in that case, be best to let it roll off his back and remain silent or simply make a glib remark about it and move on. Kimmel is a comedian. That's what he does. He insults people. It's his job. And for most comedians, it's nothing personal against those they joke about. It's just what they do. Most people understand that. Olbermann should too. Is he being narcissistic about this? Yes.

However in personal relationships - those among family, friends, employers and partners, as I stated above, the narcissists are the ones doing the insulting (sometimes packaged as a "joke&quot - they are the ones exhibiting cruel and insensitive behavior and expecting to get away with it. And in those cases, they absolutely should not be given a pass. At that point, it's personal - and there's the difference. Kimmel's remarks about Olbermann - probably were not personal. I doubt the two have ever met.

So, who the narcissist is when it comes to these insults packaged as "jokes" - depends on the situation and whether it's truly meant to be personal or not. It isn't always as you stated it. To say that it is - is to condone some people's abusive behavior - behavior that should not be tolerated in many cases.

I don't have much pity for Keith Olbermann. He largely is responsible for being where he is. He's brilliant, but not the easiest person to get along with, obviously. And he has plenty of money to stay afloat, retire or do whatever he wants to do at this point (except perhaps have anything but his very own news/commentary program at this point).


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Keith has a sad re Kimmel... [View all] monmouth Apr 2012 OP
I think that's pretty funny shit actually, and like Jimmy Kimmel. Olbermann has some issue's to be teddy51 Apr 2012 #1
Time for Keith to both chrisa Apr 2012 #2
KO takes himself WAY too seriously.... Bennyboy Apr 2012 #3
Not funny. Unless you get belly laughs from unemployment. Do you? aquart Apr 2012 #7
Wait. Joking about Olbermann's situation isn't funny because its making fun onenote Apr 2012 #10
I'm pretty sure ko isn't eating spaghettios in a cardboard box. HappyMe Apr 2012 #45
He's just opening the door for more ribbing... AmazingSchnitzel Apr 2012 #19
Just like how Romney's known unemployment in the past, huh? nt. harmonicon Apr 2012 #20
? aquart Apr 2012 #36
It seemed pretty clear to me, but I'll explain it. harmonicon Apr 2012 #40
Wow. Tens of millions. aquart May 2012 #55
Supposedly his net worth is about $35 million. harmonicon May 2012 #61
that's WEAK.. KO is a millionaire many, many times over... dionysus Apr 2012 #32
That's what I'm thinking. Olbermann will be just fine. Drunken Irishman Apr 2012 #42
Define "fine." aquart May 2012 #54
I'm impressed by your knowledge of his finances. aquart May 2012 #53
You worry about his lack of employment? CBGLuthier Apr 2012 #44
Unemployment? Renew Deal May 2012 #58
KO is the 1%. n/t Model_T May 2012 #60
Narcissists can't tolerate anyone making a joke at their expense. If someone Liquorice Apr 2012 #35
Who is being narcissistic when it comes to insulting "jokes" depends on the situation ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #39
It's true that narcissists can be very Liquorice Apr 2012 #41
I just didn't like him hitting Keith while he's down. The timing on that sucked. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #4
Yeah. There is a difference between hitting people in power and people out of power. aquart Apr 2012 #5
I wouldn't be surprised if right now, I have more money in the bank than Keith Olbermann. Ian David Apr 2012 #6
I hope that's not true. aquart Apr 2012 #9
You must have a very healthy bank account onenote Apr 2012 #11
It's in Manhattan. With a view. aquart Apr 2012 #38
Are you joking? ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2012 #12
Never mind. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #37
I don't get why you would say that to this poster 2pooped2pop Apr 2012 #43
That was TOTALLY uncalled for. randome Apr 2012 #47
That was unnecessary. HappyMe Apr 2012 #50
Why? ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2012 #51
Ha ha ha ha ha sharp_stick Apr 2012 #15
You're kidding, right? Bladian Apr 2012 #27
Someone else already pointed that out. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #30
Hold it, your income is in the millions? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #31
Then you must be LOADED! Bake Apr 2012 #52
I agree. I did not think it was funny at all Mojorabbit Apr 2012 #25
I thought it would have been funny at a different point in Keith's career. Ian David Apr 2012 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Mojorabbit Apr 2012 #25
Aw...LOL snooper2 Apr 2012 #48
KO would be better served to laugh WITH stuff like this AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #8
Yes, but he isn't always able to. That's Keith. aquart Apr 2012 #17
JKimmel was introduced as having been fired from 4 radio stations. AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #21
One of my favorite Colbert sketches is the Olbermug. Quantess Apr 2012 #14
Ohmygawd. I had forgotten about that. progressoid Apr 2012 #22
I thought Kimmel's skit was hilarious. Apparently so did President Obama. KO needs to grow up. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2012 #16
I'm sorry KO, but I can't believe you react this way. You're a public figure, and by... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #18
Wow. Someone really can't take a joke. bigwillq Apr 2012 #23
I think that joke went too far. It's a fine line. It makes fun of a struggling network and someone Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #24
Keith's comments seemed fairly mild to me. senseandsensibility Apr 2012 #28
I thought so, too. GoCubsGo Apr 2012 #34
My take on it as well. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #46
Keith complaining about this is just Keith's way of getting another 24 hours Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #29
Its a joke! LASlibinSC Apr 2012 #33
This thread is an amazing study on how we eat our own. ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #56
Yep. GoCubsGo May 2012 #59
I think the joke was fair Renew Deal May 2012 #57
Surprisingly thin skin for a guy who spends so much of his time jabbing at others. hughee99 May 2012 #62
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