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In reply to the discussion: Keith has a sad re Kimmel... [View all]ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)Generally speaking, narcissists are the people who package insults inside of a "joke" and then when the subject of said "joke" finds it hurtful and complains , the subject is accused of having no sense of humor and being "too sensitive". But the real problem is that the narcissist who packaged the insult inside of a joke is not sensitive enough or they wouldn't be insulting someone and expecting to get away with it. Besides narcissists, they're also called sociopaths and and just plain verbal abusers. They're the ones bullying and taunting other kids on the playground or the man who makes hurtful jokes about his wife - TO his wife, either when they're alone or in front of other people - or the employer who taunts an employee with insulting "jokes". In these cases, such behavior is unacceptable and the "jokester" needs to learn some sensitivity.
But -- Keith, being a public figure, might expect that sometimes he will be 'roasted' at events like that one and it would in that case, be best to let it roll off his back and remain silent or simply make a glib remark about it and move on. Kimmel is a comedian. That's what he does. He insults people. It's his job. And for most comedians, it's nothing personal against those they joke about. It's just what they do. Most people understand that. Olbermann should too. Is he being narcissistic about this? Yes.
However in personal relationships - those among family, friends, employers and partners, as I stated above, the narcissists are the ones doing the insulting (sometimes packaged as a "joke"
- they are the ones exhibiting cruel and insensitive behavior and expecting to get away with it. And in those cases, they absolutely should not be given a pass. At that point, it's personal - and there's the difference. Kimmel's remarks about Olbermann - probably were not personal. I doubt the two have ever met.
So, who the narcissist is when it comes to these insults packaged as "jokes" - depends on the situation and whether it's truly meant to be personal or not. It isn't always as you stated it. To say that it is - is to condone some people's abusive behavior - behavior that should not be tolerated in many cases.
I don't have much pity for Keith Olbermann. He largely is responsible for being where he is. He's brilliant, but not the easiest person to get along with, obviously. And he has plenty of money to stay afloat, retire or do whatever he wants to do at this point (except perhaps have anything but his very own news/commentary program at this point).