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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
27. Thanks for the KYC link. Such rules are generally decried in CTs. We glaze over the facts too much.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:14 PM
Feb 2015

Despite my notion of independence because of the end of the British lease on Hong Kong, still being owned by the UK puts them under KYC laws passed in 2007.

The Wikipedia piece shows the law is not in place in several nations. And it's the eternally evil, international banking system, blah, blah, blah. That is exactly what found these fraudsters who are stealing the Commons.

This was corruption by those who considered themselves above the law. Bank and corporate deregulation is part of negative libertarianism. Sounds like the elite's version of the sovereign citizens:

'No government tells me what to do!'

The philosophy described:

How Freedom Became Tyranny

By George Monbiot - December 19, 2011

Freedom: who could object? Yet this word is now used to justify a thousand forms of exploitation. Throughout the rightwing press and blogosphere, among thinktanks and governments, the word excuses every assault on the lives of the poor, every form of inequality and intrusion to which the 1% subject us. How did libertarianism, once a noble impulse, become synonymous with injustice?

In the name of freedom – freedom from regulation – the banks were permitted to wreck the economy. In the name of freedom, taxes for the super-rich are cut. In the name of freedom, companies lobby to drop the minimum wage and raise working hours. In the same cause, US insurers lobby Congress to thwart effective public healthcare; the government rips up our planning laws(1); big business trashes the biosphere. This is the freedom of the powerful to exploit the weak, the rich to exploit the poor.

Right-wing libertarianism recognises few legitimate constraints on the power to act, regardless of the impact on the lives of others. In the UK it is forcefully promoted by groups like the TaxPayers’ Alliance, the Adam Smith Institute, the Institute of Economic Affairs and Policy Exchange(2). Their conception of freedom looks to me like nothing but a justification for greed.

So why have we been been so slow to challenge this concept of liberty? I believe that one of the reasons is as follows. The great political conflict of our age – between neocons and the millionaires and corporations they support on one side and social justice campaigners and environmentalists on the other – has been mischaracterised as a clash between negative and positive freedoms...


Much more at link:

http://www.monbiot.com/2011/12/19/how-freedom-became-tyranny/

Van Jones explained negative libertarianism and how it is leading not to government tyranny, but corporate tyranny. The rightwingers are working for the same goals they say they are against, as they won't look to the end results. I see the same on the far left, sadly, in calling for exiting the public square and in effect, ceding the last of the Commons to the same forces and corporations:



And your link with the 'anti-money laundering software' link means that HSBC had the tools to discern these thefts. As you said, some of them didn't want to act upon that data as mandated.

JMHO...

HSBC. How bad is it really? [View all] rpannier Feb 2015 OP
Well done post..... dixiegrrrrl Feb 2015 #1
Give you one guess which foundation received $81 mil from HSBC tularetom Feb 2015 #2
So every account is suspect now? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #3
WTF does THAT have to do with anything? tularetom Feb 2015 #4
WTF does that have to do with anything....you are making an indictment NOT in evidence.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #5
I'm not making an indictment at all, I simply asked for a guess tularetom Feb 2015 #10
You brought it up.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #21
No, there's already a connection, I just pointed it out tularetom Feb 2015 #23
No more of a connection that me having a Chase or BofA account "connects" DanTex Feb 2015 #24
Some of the HSBC account holders who contributed were rather unsavory characters themselves tularetom Feb 2015 #28
I'm sure some Chase and BofA account holders are also... DanTex Feb 2015 #29
The money didn't come "from HSBC". DanTex Feb 2015 #13
From India Express rpannier Feb 2015 #30
D*mn RiverLover Feb 2015 #6
What is HSBC hiding? In 2006, the Swiss Branch managed tens of millions of dollars for Saudi Arabian JonLP24 Feb 2015 #7
K&R riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #8
Sounds like all the BCCI "clients" went to HSBC. N/t roamer65 Feb 2015 #9
What does HSBC stand for? HSBC stands for Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation. They own it. freshwest Feb 2015 #11
HSBC Holdings plc is a BRITISH multinational banking and financial services company Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #14
HSBC is a British bank, headquartered in London. It's publicly traded, owned by shareholders. DanTex Feb 2015 #15
Ah, ha, so it is still in British hands. They should have known better! Thanks!!! freshwest Feb 2015 #16
Yup. Unfortunately, "they should have known better" goes for a lot of banks these days... DanTex Feb 2015 #17
But how would they know the money was dirty? Do they keep data bases on criminal enterprises? freshwest Feb 2015 #20
Well, I don't know exactly. There are anti-money-laundering practices that DanTex Feb 2015 #22
Thanks for the KYC link. Such rules are generally decried in CTs. We glaze over the facts too much. freshwest Feb 2015 #27
So your Chinese commie plot didn't pan out Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #18
Regarding Saudi money going to Bin Laden JonLP24 Feb 2015 #19
K&R nt Mnemosyne Feb 2015 #12
Thank you Catherine Vincent Feb 2015 #25
Excellent piece. salin Feb 2015 #26
boot to the top for exposure! NuttyFluffers Feb 2015 #31
HSBC boss hid millions in Switzerland for self... Octafish Feb 2015 #32
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