Liberals have been right on so many things. We have not deserved to be marginalized.

[TheKentuckian]

120. What we did was to tell them it is in the end fine. We will take whatever we are served

and to ignore any and all complaints because they are just huffing and in the end we'll hold our noses and go along.

That their are no consequences because if the party stars come through for a turd we won't even primary their ass, in fact we will swallow a thugthistle coronation and dutifully show up because.the TeaPubliKlans are worse.

They aren't going to fold, there is too much for them to lose so it is now a question of pain tolerance in a contest of wills. Ultimate power is vested in who is willing to destroy a thing otherwise all that is left is terms of surrender in a bid to save what you won't risk losing once your opponent knows your bottom line you are beaten, all they have to do is go to the heart and it is folding time.

Only when the opposition knows that surrender isn't going to happen can there be a real fight.