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pampango

(24,692 posts)
15. And I with you.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:45 PM
Feb 2015
Nationalism is not an invention of the right ...

I did not say that it was. I said "nationalism that is integral to the far-right's mentality ..."

One ideological doctrine unites the far-right worldview, it is that of nationalism.

Nations are nothing more than logical units of government, just as states are ...

True. And just as states function as units of government within nations, nations can function as units of government within larger groups, as in Europe. Many countries there are smaller than our states.

The more we coalesce into one globalist blob, the more we are prey to the wealthy vultures.

Our history is filled with eras when elites ("vultures&quot ran roughshod over people with little in the way of trade or 'globalism'. And in modern times, Europe has proven that a large continental 'blob' with many nations contained within can be quite progressive.

Now, as globalism spreads, it works less all the time, as the economies of the world compete for and cater mostly to, not their own populations, but the small percentage of affluent consumers in all countries.

Most of the income gains of the past 25 years have gone to the world's poorest 70%. That is not something that liberals would usually oppose. The top global 1% have also gained while the while those in the 80-90% group, the Western middle class for the most part, have suffered. Rather than punishing the 70% to regain middle class prosperity here, I think we should go after the 1% and redistribute their ill-gotten gains to our middle class.

In Scandanavian countries which are 'globalized' much more than the US is:


OECD study: Income gains to top 1% last 30 years - US worst (by far), Europe best (by far).

Canada is second only to the U.S. in its growing inequality. In the U.S., about 47 per cent of total growth went to the wealthiest one per cent between 1975 and 2007, compared to 37 per cent in Canada, while in Australia and the U.K., about 20 per cent of growth went to the wealthiest.

In Nordic countries ... about 90 per cent of growth went to the 99 per cent of middle and low-income earners in the same period.

OECD study: Income gains to top 1% last 30 years - US worst (by far), Europe best (by far).

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/top-1-taking-lion-s-share-of-global-growth-oecd-says-1.2627154

some liberals do not have so much of a "we're all in this together" mentality as they like to think ...

Probably true, but liberals are certainly much more likely than conservatives to care about "THEM" and not just "US".
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