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In reply to the discussion: DO NOT BE FOOLED!!! [View all]H2O Man
(79,500 posts)Over the weekend, I joined in on an OP/thread by friend bigtree, in which he spoke of being a member of your fan club. I thought it was a wonderful gesture on his part, and I was more than happy to add my two cents to it. I did so without any reservations. However, for the sake of this conversation, I will note that it was shortly after disagreeing with you on the nature of forum members opinions of Hillary Clinton.
By no coincidence, that same general disagreement is found here, on this OP/thread that you started. In response to bigtrees comment per people either getting it or not, I noted that one could get your OP, but not appreciate it. Indeed, one can get it, not appreciate it, but still heartily endorse our friends fan club post
for good writers, like good politicians, athletes, etc, are human beings
and human beings are not, by definition, perfect.
I noted on bigtrees OP that, at my age, I am no longer a fan of anyone (or any team). Thus, while I truly enjoy watching the Super Bowl, or NBA finals, Im never disappointed. My favorite sport is boxing. On May 2, Floyd Mayweather will fight Manny Pacquiao; this will be the single biggest money-making event in sports history. Mayweather, for example, should easily double the $92 million he made in a single bout, in September of 2013. Needless to say, no matter who wins, about half the fans will be disappointed.
That type of disappointment is merely the result of one person setting a standard for anothers behavior. Not only is it patronizing, at best, but it can only lead to -- well, disappointment. Better to set standards for ones self, and recognizing that, just like everyone else, we all have flaws.
Im getting a bit side-tracked, a not uncommon feature of old age.
Im glad -- though not surprised -- that you take a different approach to discussing Clinton et al with your friends in real life. I suspect that this is rather common among those who post on the internet, including DU. Speaking only for myself -- an example, I suppose, of one of the standards that I set for myself -- I try to be as respectful of people here, as I would were they sitting in my living room. That doesnt absolutely exclude ever making a snaky reply to an individual who I recognize as a troll, or responding with an attempt at humor when someone says something foolish. But is does mean that I do not assume that the majority of people who disagree with me on an issue such as Ms. Clinton, are not trolls or fools.
I think that the tone being set on DU:GD is becoming too harsh and toxic to allow for meaningful discussions to compete with the nonsense. In my opinion, some of your recent comments have added to that ugly tone. I also recognize that you have the right to post whatever you want to. Yet, not withstanding the temporary pleasure that snark may bring, I wonder if, deep down, you really think that those posts serve any positive role in a discussion about Ms. Clintons qualifications to be President?