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In reply to the discussion: Why women like Patricia Arquette continue to whitewash Feminism. [View all]bravenak
(34,648 posts)People took from it what they took from it. She told narginalized groups that it's time to fight for her now. They have always been fighting that fight. Nobody did their fighting for them. Had she left it at what sh said onstage, sh would have not gotten a reaction.
I hate the way that when black people say something makes them feel marginalized, they get called divisive or their concerns are dismissed as imaginary. Instead of people listening and making sure to be inclusive. And wish they would stop saying 'we fought for your rights!" Like we just sat around eating bbq while white folks fought for us. Can't just say 'we all need to fight together for equality?"
Why say black people need to fight for us now like we fought for you? What does that mean even? Black people are always being singled out and told how grateful we should be or told how hard others have fougt FOR us. Thought we were in it together. So, whats up with the we fought for your rights shit? We fought for our own rights that we always should have had. Now, people say she was including black women in the 'women' group. Ok. So black men need to fight for women now like we fought for them. Which women do they need to fight for? Who do the most marginalized group of men in America owe? They still make less than white women in many cases. Shoukd we not fight fo them too? One third of them spend time in our racist prison system as targets of the state. Where are all these women fighting for their rights? I know. They are the black women for the most part at home raising their kids on less pay than most other women.
Start grouping people by race and say you did all this for their rights and now they need to do for you, this is the reaction that will happen. P
Now, many will say, she's a feminist, feminist worked for the rights of all women and rights for black people. Now, that is just not true. Feminism has a black white split because of the racism black feminist recieved and still recieve at the hands of white feminists. Way back during sufferage white feminists made black ones march at the back. Ride the back streetcars. Feminism was against the black male vote. So, no. Not true. But the movement certainly claims the work of women that the movement marginalizes everyday. If feminism is all about words mattering and empowering women they fail when it comes to race. Always have. Black women say something about it? Divisive.
Black people don't owe anybody anything for 'fighting' for our rights.