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uppityperson

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72. Who the author was was a problem?

Wed Feb 25, 2015, 10:02 PM

Feb 2015

I guess I tried to ignore that and look at only 1 part of what was being said thinking that it was like this OP says, poorly worded and willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Looking back, it did surprise me as I rarely agree with anything they write, any of their positions.

I was one who tookthe "no woman" part of it as sexist as placing a person in the category of a thing, a belonging, rather than a companion in life or even her own being. I read the OP as noticing sexism, not as bashing someone who was homeless and in need. I would like to read the OP again but it has been self deleted.

Knowing the op of that thread, it does not surprise me it went as it did and wonder if I was played.

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Writing is hard, writing what you mean without any possibility of misinterpretation is even harder [View all] Fumesucker Feb 2015 OP

rec & kick MerryBlooms Feb 2015 #1

Huge K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Feb 2015 #2

Good OP, Fumesucker. brer cat Feb 2015 #3

And if you are going to be a pedant, be polite. longship Feb 2015 #4

Guilty as charged.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #5

Well, I posted it as one pedant to a presumed another. longship Feb 2015 #6

Yeah, I think it was you in that thread about the VLT and mirrors rather than lenses.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #54

Guilty, as charged. longship Feb 2015 #57

KnR. I teach writing to college students. I also try to teach them to tblue37 Feb 2015 #115

Your edit resonates with me Plucketeer Feb 2015 #126

Jobless, homeless and lonely. stone space Feb 2015 #7

"The benefit of the doubt". Always. randome Feb 2015 #8

Kick. Agschmid Feb 2015 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2015 #18

I agree. lovemydog Feb 2015 #10

It's a corollary to Murphy's Law: Brigid Feb 2015 #11

It's even worse than that.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #12

And then there are the people nichomachus Feb 2015 #20

In most cases ... NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #13

My post was about the homeless person being castigated for the sign actually Fumesucker Feb 2015 #16

I know it was ... NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #22

Oh, she got a few but overall I wasn't surprised at the way the thread went.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #23

I wasn't surprised either. NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #64

Who the author was was a problem? uppityperson Feb 2015 #72

The author wasn't a "problem" for me ... NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #86

Thanks for the answer. uppityperson Feb 2015 #87

And I, too, want to be clear ... NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #88

Agreed. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #26

Well, speaking for myself ... NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #49

K&R F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #14

100% agree. It seems more and more there's a presumption of bad faith around here el_bryanto Feb 2015 #15

+1 ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #29

some people are just looking for excuses to get people booted ND-Dem Feb 2015 #62

Yeah, there does seem to be a presumption of bad faith Bettie Feb 2015 #123

... cwydro Feb 2015 #17

I will not tolerate poorly worded posts. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #19

+ a huge bunch! Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #53

... Enthusiast Feb 2015 #102

What the hell do you mean by that? Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #60

I have a trace of Republican DNA. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #101

I am not sure why you would deny someone the pleasure of misinterpreting a post. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #92

I would go so far as to say it's impossible mythology Feb 2015 #21

Yeah, that's true I think.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #25

I'm sick of this anti-vaccination bullshit! Glassunion Feb 2015 #24

Why are you bashing Hillary Clinton? Look in a mirror bub because mimes are a silent threat. Vattel Feb 2015 #70

I'm sick of corporate shills like you always pushing your pseudoscience into our classrooms. Glassunion Feb 2015 #73

Please dont flying rabbit Feb 2015 #80

Obviously you're a gun-humping, Putin-loving, Obama-worshipping, third way Snowden fanboy! Vattel Feb 2015 #82

I really strongly agree with this OP, which is by the way worded beautifully. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #27

Thank you, I appreciate that.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #77

That's nice to hear. Perhaps people will take note of what the OP says and sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #130

I scratch out a living as a writer/editor... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #28

Oh please.... prayin4rain Feb 2015 #30

Young broke homeless person expresses themself inelegantly, what a surprise! Fumesucker Feb 2015 #31

Disclaimer 241: prayin4rain Feb 2015 #35

You lost me at homeless.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #39

Good, then we've identified disclaimer 4 and 5 as the relevant disclaimers to prayin4rain Feb 2015 #41

Did I seem outraged? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #44

She got jumped on in the thread prayin4rain Feb 2015 #46

What if the sign had said No Family? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #48

Exactly. NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #55

Completely irrelevant to the current issue, but, no. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #56

I don't see it as irrelevant to the issue of being quick to judge others by a few words Fumesucker Feb 2015 #71

I agree with much of what you say, and certainly agree with the sentiment. prayin4rain Feb 2015 #85

Indeed, I see your point also which is why I mentioned pain on both sides of the sign Fumesucker Feb 2015 #93

I totally understand. Compassion is the only hope prayin4rain Feb 2015 #95

She got jumped on... BronxBoy Feb 2015 #109

Maybe that OP did, too. treestar Feb 2015 #38

Look at my response in the thread in question.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #40

. one_voice Feb 2015 #34

As a Homeless person.. Hatchling Feb 2015 #90

I'm so sorry. prayin4rain Feb 2015 #94

If you had really read that thread.... BronxBoy Feb 2015 #108

If I ever see a thread prayin4rain Feb 2015 #117

Stop putting words in my mouth BronxBoy Feb 2015 #119

I never tried to make prayin4rain Feb 2015 #120

The post was about a homeless man's sign BronxBoy Feb 2015 #122

Homeless issues are women's issues. Hatchling Feb 2015 #136

Good point, I totally agree. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #137

Yes, it's hard times indeed Fumesucker Feb 2015 #112

Thank you. I know that. Hatchling Feb 2015 #135

Oh but what if I am really a dreadful person jberryhill Feb 2015 #32

I'll make an exception for you... Fumesucker Feb 2015 #33

That was a comment on some other thread here... jberryhill Feb 2015 #37

The most absolutely pure case of troll fail I've ever seen and I've seen a lot... Fumesucker Feb 2015 #45

It is good to ask for clarification and to take time to make sure you understand uppityperson Feb 2015 #36

I wrote what I meant frazzled Feb 2015 #42

It's when we get indignant that we are most likely to say something unfortunate.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #61

It was totally worth it frazzled Feb 2015 #84

Quit peeing on the parade of the perpetually offended and nitpicky! ColesCountyDem Feb 2015 #43

We could all be holding hastily scribbled messages on scraps of cardboard... countryjake Feb 2015 #47

I've been there too.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #50

"I have made this longer than usual because I have not had time to make it shorter." Maedhros Feb 2015 #51

! Fumesucker Feb 2015 #52

I think the rudeness around here has gotten completely out of hand. Brigid Feb 2015 #58

I missed that thread BainsBane Feb 2015 #59

After thinking about it a while I've come to the conclusion there was pain on both sides of the sign Fumesucker Feb 2015 #76

You know, that's insightful BainsBane Feb 2015 #78

example "The Democratic party *should* marginalize and ignore liberals" right? Vincardog Feb 2015 #63

I started that as semi snark.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #65

Me too, but change "Should" to "would" I still don't buy the premise. Vincardog Feb 2015 #67

Amen and amen! nolabear Feb 2015 #66

kick w0nderer Feb 2015 #68

Yeah, umm. ick. That thread helped me add some folks to ignore. X_Digger Feb 2015 #69

An absurdly uncharitable and unreasonable interpretation of said word choice at that. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #121

Of course, you're right MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #74

Knowing what it's supposed to say might make it even more difficult to catch the error Fumesucker Feb 2015 #79

I find that the best copy editors are people unskilled in the subject matter MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #81

She's definitely facile with words.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #83

I can see why it was self deleted whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #75

and some people can dish it out but, they can't take it. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #89

Damn right. I've seen some really vicious attacks on people's characters Damansarajaya Feb 2015 #91

Those homeless beggar signs can be important. nilesobek Feb 2015 #96

You know what? She deleted that thread after thinking about it. That puts her head and shoulders Rex Feb 2015 #97

I think she deleted that thread ... NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #98

I think she rushed home so she could tell us about his sign. Rex Feb 2015 #99

And she doubled down.., BronxBoy Feb 2015 #103

That OP read this thread Fumesucker Feb 2015 #105

And there were enough thoughful responses within that thread... BronxBoy Feb 2015 #110

I know what you mean, man. I really, truly do. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #100

K&R deutsey Feb 2015 #104

The difference between the right word and the almost right word Fumesucker Feb 2015 #107

Misinterpretation can happen no matter how carefully we craft our messages. riqster Feb 2015 #106

Well done. I think this resonates with lots of us. cbayer Feb 2015 #111

I hear you. 99Forever Feb 2015 #113

K&R Thespian2 Feb 2015 #114

I'm about to find out because I'm currently writing a book on the demand side of economics. mmonk Feb 2015 #116

This has happened to me more times than I can say. ananda Feb 2015 #118

I think there's a lot of truth pipi_k Feb 2015 #124

Thanks, Fumesucker Android3.14 Feb 2015 #125

Amen. And to hell with the faux outraged---those who hate the message so they nitpick some McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #127

Thankful for a thoughtful post BronxBoy Feb 2015 #128

Honestly I think there was pain on both sides of that sign, the reader and the writer Fumesucker Feb 2015 #132

I write something every day Plucketeer Feb 2015 #129

I was once writing something on making pasta dough Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2015 #131

Some people take offense to everything.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #133

Grammar is an important tool ashling Feb 2015 #134