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nadinbrzezinski

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54. Was George Zimmerman's permit pulled off when
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 02:38 PM
Apr 2012

he received a restraining order?

No.

Would my state do that? Yup, it is automatic.

It should be automatic in YOUR STATE too.

Live with it, not all of us agree that YOUR STATE, or a few others in the bible belt, in red america, captured by the NRA, are following rational gun policies.

But enjoy the capture by the NRA and their lackeys at ALEC

I am not being emotional, your next charge... just know that yes... lax gun regulation lead to trouble. And yes, there have been MORE SYG shootings IN YOUR STATE, since the law came into effect. The only trend upwards in gun violence.

Rising numbers of civilian justifiable homicides across the US are closely linked to states with both weak gun controls and stand-your-ground laws, according to a Guardian analysis of FBI and other data, which show a 25% increase in such killings since the controversial self-defence laws started being introduced around 2005.

Stand-your-ground (SYG) measures, which have attracted increasing scrutiny since the fatal shooting of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin by a neighbourhood watch volunteer in Florida, allow citizens to use deadly force when they believe their life is in danger, without requiring them to retreat or try to escape the threat first.

Florida was the first state to introduce an SYG law in 2005 and similar measures have now been adopted in some form by more than 20 states. Many were passed in 2006.



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/05/justified-homicides-up-25-percent-since-states-passed-stand-your-ground-laws/

And these two opinions also reflect my real life experience when it comes to guns... and all that

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/30/opinion/nejame-guns-stand-your-ground/index.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Walter-Rodgers/2012/0430/Florida-style-Stand-Your-Ground-gun-laws-sub-impulse-for-intelligent-thinking

Have a wonderful day... stats are a *((^ on either side. I know... we can play this game all day. You are as emotional and attached to this, as you accuse others of being.

By the way SPIN, know I did not want a CCW? I KNOW what guns do...

This is not theory to me... at all. I transported in the course of ten years way too many people to the Trauma Center who met a small piece of metal flying at high rates of speed... some of them even died from it.

Granted I also encountered the more rare fist on face, or rock on face or knife and the far more popular ice pick. That does not mean I am a fan of lax gun laws. This little incident in Sanford brought the spotlight on it... and you know what? Bout bloody time.

Sorry if some of us can see the problems and actually not be emotional about it, but be cold about it. Lax laws and too many guns sooner or later lead to serious trouble. Don't believe me... what country around the world with lax laws do you want me to point to? There are several right now. There are several where there are laws in theory, but guns are as available as well butter and eggs, care to see the consequences of that culture?

As I like to say it, and I know it ain't popular, we are not exceptional. And yes Dodge City, not the NRA myth, the real deal, got it.

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On Zimmy's statement to the court [View all] nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 OP
"Becoming paranoid". The country is awash in pure fear of the 'other'. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #1
Yeah I know... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #2
Get ready for the CCW fans to rip this thread apart Hugabear Apr 2012 #3
Oh I expect it. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #4
No we won't - there are so many examples of spontaneous mass shoot outs in theaters hack89 Apr 2012 #12
which makes it all the more stupid that he got out of his car and followed Trayvon magical thyme Apr 2012 #5
Agreed, I think they opened a few holes nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #13
that's more than culture I think magical thyme Apr 2012 #17
Absolutely nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #19
And he lied when he said he thought Martin was older. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #27
Zimmerman's side will tell you his gun saved his life. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #6
And everyone else will tell you Zimmerman should have never gotten out of his damned car Hugabear Apr 2012 #7
No shit Sherlock. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #8
They can and they do nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #10
I remember that logic...We had to destroy the village to save it. A Simple Game Apr 2012 #20
Fear is an adrenaline high, an addiction. When it cycles down, one needs another fix to feel alive. freshwest Apr 2012 #9
What is funny is that this drug, and yes it is a drug, it is an adrenalin high nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #11
A variation of something I was thinking. 99Forever Apr 2012 #14
Yup, I have heard this nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #15
"An armed society is a polite society." arely staircase Apr 2012 #31
Strange. I have a Concealed Weapons Permit and I don't think that everybody I see is armed. spin Apr 2012 #16
And per schedule HI nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #18
Just curious, since you are an ex-cop. zappaman Apr 2012 #22
We can argue about who is the most paranoid all day ... spin Apr 2012 #24
Neither am I, but I do not live in a state where my chances nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #26
As an ex-cop you should still qualify for one. Codeine Apr 2012 #40
Do me a favor, would you? 99Forever Apr 2012 #21
Since you live in Minnesota and I live in Florida ... spin Apr 2012 #25
Or, as has been recently illustrated, if you are a young... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #28
What you fail to realize is that I am not Zimmerman ... spin Apr 2012 #29
I see... 99Forever Apr 2012 #30
Feel free to visit... AmazingSchnitzel Apr 2012 #32
Welcome to DU. (n/t) spin Apr 2012 #33
Thanks.. AmazingSchnitzel Apr 2012 #38
Reading skills are fundamental ... spin Apr 2012 #35
My "reading skills" are just fine, bud,... 99Forever Apr 2012 #36
Let's look at some facts and statistics ... spin Apr 2012 #37
Facts and statistics... 99Forever Apr 2012 #39
It's the equivalent of admitting you are wrong... AmazingSchnitzel Apr 2012 #41
Exactly. (n/t) spin Apr 2012 #43
That isn't what I said.. 99Forever Apr 2012 #46
Like many who oppose concealed carry ... spin Apr 2012 #42
Human nature being what it is, I actually agree with this. Good point Nadin nt riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #23
How do we protect ourselves from this group of people who are now walking Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #34
Over 800,000 citizens have concealed weapons permits in Florida ... spin Apr 2012 #44
Who is going to be left alive to define if an attack is provoked? Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #45
I walk by cameras all the time ... spin Apr 2012 #47
You don't represent everyone who carries, do you spin? Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #48
Zimmerman hardly represents the majority of people ... spin Apr 2012 #49
Well, we don't know it. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #50
Two things on this nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #51
If you you said was true ... spin Apr 2012 #53
Was George Zimmerman's permit pulled off when nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #54
Is the fact that JUSTIFIED shooting has increased 25% a terrible thing? spin Apr 2012 #56
Here is the problem you are having nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #57
There is a legal review in the Zimmerman case ... spin Apr 2012 #59
Oh com'on there is legal review ONLY after massive national nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #60
If you carefully read my post you will find that we agree on this point... spin Apr 2012 #61
What you ignore is the number of lives that are saved because a person with a carry permit ... spin Apr 2012 #55
Zimmy was lying: ""I thought Trayvon was slightly younger than me..." pokerfan Apr 2012 #52
Swill pipoman Apr 2012 #58
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