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In reply to the discussion: 5 Reasons Why Leftists Should Defend Russia | New Eastern Outlook [View all]arendt
(5,078 posts)214. The CIA has been running coups since 1953
I have seen this movie so many times that I am bored with the script.
The CIA had been buying up Iranian journalists, preachers, army and police officers, and members of parliament, who were instructed to forment opposition to the government. The CIA also purchased the services of the extremist Warriors of Islam , a "terrorist gang", according to the CIA history of the coup. In August, (Kermit) Roosevelt began setting mobs loose to create chaos in the capital. His street thugs, pretending to be members of the Tudeh party, attacked mullahs and destroyed a mosque...in the midst of the anarchy, Roosevelt brought General Zahedi out of his CIA hiding place...After and armed battle, coup plotters arrested Mossadeq and thousands of his supporters...Some were executed. Mossadeq was convicted of treason and imprisoned.
- O. Stone and P. Kuznick, The Untold History of the United States
Buying up the government: Vicki Nuland: (paraphrase) "We spent $5B on Ukraine".
Purchasing extremists: See the neo-Nazis you try so hard to whitewash.
Turn lose mobs to create chaos in the capital: check.
False flag attack on mosque: unidentified snipers shoot BOTH sides. At the time, a brave nurse reported that the wounded on both sides were shot the same way. A year later, BBC reports about a guy who was taken to a sharpshooter nest by a prominent neo-Nazi.
Arresting the president: Yanukovich fleeing for his life is "evidence" that he was in the wrong. Excuse me, he had sixty years of evidence what happens to democratically elected leaders on the wrong end of a CIA coup.
Bringing out "their guy": Isn't it amazing that the former boxer, Klichko, who led the peaceful demonstrations all but vanished from the political radar immediately after the coup. Meanwhile, "Yats is our man" is prime minister, and Pariuby(spelling?) the founder of a neo-Nazi party is visiting Washington to shill for weapons.
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None of these facts make it into your version of events. I already mentioned the propaganda bubble you live inside. You don't have to tell lies to be a propagandist. You only have to omit one side of the story.
The scenario here is the same scenario the CIA has used since 1953. It is the same scenario that just failed in Venezuela. That succeeded in Honduras in 2009. The list of CIA sponsored coups runs to the dozens. But, anyone who is awake can see what is going on here. You might think the CIA would come up with something a little less obvious; but I guess they figure they are now so powerful they can just smash their way to victory.
The fact that you refuse to see what is directly in front of your face makes you either a patriotic Ukranian "useful idiot" or a neocon sock puppet.
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You accuse me of having a foolish mindset towards Ukraine and go into what you believe will be the consequences of the IMF. To be honest, I have no idea what might happen down the road with the IMF. That's not my concern with your position.
Wow. Just wow. You have six years of the IMF torturing Greece, and you "have no idea". That is "not my concern".
You are such a fraudulent "patriot". How do you sleep at night.
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As the saying goes: you cannot wake a man pretending to be asleep.
We are done here.
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Well, yes; in the past 24 hours your accusations about me have included:
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#50
what's odd is that Obama and Putin are pretty much enemies at this point nt
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#66
Really? How do you feel about all of our dictator allies? I despise dictators, like the Saudis, eg,
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#135
Those are different, they are "pragmatic" leaders incrementally working for truth, justice, and the
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#181
+1000. Russia under Dictator Putin is a dictatorship and NO Leftists should support
BlueCaliDem
Feb 2015
#11
Russia does not want support from LGBT people, if they did they would not oppress our Russian
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2015
#4
LGBT issues are just barely "tolerated" here.. got a Looooong, long way to go before there is actual
2banon
Feb 2015
#109
Some stats - which show USA is much better, and getting better, and Russia is getting worse
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#155
Don't tell the far-right in Europe. They totally support Russia and don't consider it 'liberal'.
pampango
Feb 2015
#5
Russian cash will allow Marine Le Pen’s Front National to take advantage of rivals’ woes....
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2015
#18
Many half-witted idiots wish everyone would support the expansionist dreams of New Russia
LanternWaste
Feb 2015
#10
A citizen of a country with 800+ military bases around the world calls another--
eridani
Feb 2015
#31
To Wrap This Up. The TWISTED LOGIC employed in the context of East-West Imperialistic powers
2banon
Feb 2015
#156
so, so far in 10-20 years the mighty expansionist Russkies have managed to grab Crimea
MisterP
Feb 2015
#170
The discussions of Crimea which conveniently fail to mention the mass deportation of the indigenous
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#225
Well, I'm not a Leftist, but I AM a Liberal and I DO believe in democracy...
BlueCaliDem
Feb 2015
#12
There are still a thousand or so left behind hiding in the town...the rebels have shown mercy while the
Fred Sanders
Feb 2015
#27
Authoritarians. Same crowd that insists that Assad's regime was framed on chemical weapons,
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#22
Projection. Those who support/serve as apologists for Putink Gaddhafi, Assad, Maduro, etc
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#173
Me either, they proved that an agrarian based society with a centralized government won't work.
Rex
Feb 2015
#40
The author of the OP is using the term "Leftist" simply as "Anti-Establishment"
Maedhros
Feb 2015
#55
Why this leftist refuses.: Russia's Anti-Gay Law, Spelled Out in Plain English
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#54
Contrary to what you've might been told, the purpose of DU isn't to shit all over the USA.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2015
#85
Piss poor social programs in the US does not constitute suppression of rights.
NuclearDem
Feb 2015
#94
The world has another superpower, it's called China. Russia as currently constituted has no
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#65
What a website - a Russian self-proclaimed partner of the far right anti-semitic 'Veterans Today'
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#81
Much like the Tea Party, Putin apology is a noisy fringe minority here at DU.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2015
#91
And the implication that building economic and diplomatic ties to Ukraine (and elsewhere in E Europe
cemaphonic
Feb 2015
#92
Psst. Right Sector isn't part of the Ukrainian government. Never was, actually.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2015
#116
If you have actual evidence that what happened in Ukraine was a coup, bring it.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2015
#216
So in short, your answer is no. No, you don't have any evidence to support....
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2015
#218
This post boils down to (1) Russia's government is awesome; and (2) the USA is inherently evil.
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#101
You're the one endorsing an article that calls for leftists to line up against their own country and
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#107
No one is advocating war with Russia. But this article is stating leftists should 'support' Putin.
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#110
All I've ever done is demand that facts be presented, and not unsupported conspiracy theories.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2015
#200
It is dishonest of you to characterize a rejection of the OP's call for supporting Russia as a call
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2015
#111
So you post bullshit and when called on it you get snarky. How impressive.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#224
L-O-Fuckin'-L...That blogger must have nothing but rainbows and unicorns in his world
Blue_Tires
Feb 2015
#98
This thread showcases why some 'leftists' are fucking awful hypocrites.
Drunken Irishman
Feb 2015
#143
Also, these pro-Putin assholes aren't on the first flight to Russia to live in that paradise.
Drunken Irishman
Feb 2015
#144
Really. damn the hypocrisy.. thanks for pointing that out, DI. Not purists when it comes to human
Cha
Feb 2015
#184
LOL. If Russia under Putin is anti-imperialist, then Adolf Hitler is a champion of religious freedom
Downtown Hound
Feb 2015
#169
Translation: You MUST support Russia because you cannot possibly side with the US "empire".
DetlefK
Feb 2015
#176
I see no reason to SUPPORT a bigoted, authoritarian, gangster capitalist government
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#185
Turnout in the past two elections was lower in the East for a pretty glaring reason.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2015
#188
The OP's current state of residence clearly has zero influence over his opinion of his neighbors.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2015
#201
Ethnonationalism is really its own ideology. The Putin loyalists are not left or right, just
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#207
Leftists are not fascist bigots, so it just boggles the mind why a leftist would defend
William769
Feb 2015
#212