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23. Most folks don't see the world through an ideological lens.

Reply to TreasonousBastard (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:05 AM

Feb 2015

They literally can't afford to. Their thinking is much more now oriented.

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What percentage of "very liberal" voters have an unfavorable view of Hillary Clinton? [View all] DanTex Feb 2015 OP

Lozo had more style with these threads Capt. Obvious Feb 2015 #1

Don't know who that is, but I'm more of a numbers and facts guy. DanTex Feb 2015 #2

Ignore Captain Obvious DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #6

Capt Obvious is referring to LoZoccolo. Someone who was banned as a troll. He's calling you a troll. KittyWampus Feb 2015 #53

Thanks. I figured that out after the next 10 posts. DanTex Feb 2015 #55

Well, I've been reluctant to get drawn into DU drama and arguments for quite a while now- KittyWampus Feb 2015 #61

LoZo is getting defamed here. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #59

LOL! He was a troll. You know why he got shit canned? Rex Feb 2015 #64

Like you I have a ton of posts. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #68

Oh I am not saying he was a freeper or anything like that. Rex Feb 2015 #72

'twas great indeed n/t whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #137

You Better Believe It! n/t sharp_stick Feb 2015 #150

I'm in the same minority, but I don't find the need to be an insufferable jackass. Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #112

It's funny that Lozo got much hate because all he did was post Gallup threads that proved beyond all Number23 Feb 2015 #163

"and if there is one thing the fringe doesn't like, it's to be reminded of its own lack of power." FSogol Mar 2015 #173

Beat me to it. hobbit709 Feb 2015 #3

LoZoccolo? Cooley Hurd Feb 2015 #4

The OP would have been a LoZo fan club member Fumesucker Feb 2015 #7

Ha! Haven't seen that name in awhile! City Lights Feb 2015 #128

LoZo was painting the Sistine Chapel of trolldom Fumesucker Feb 2015 #10

Whatever happened to him? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #13

He trolled badly. hobbit709 Feb 2015 #15

Did he get tombstoned? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #21

yikes marym625 Feb 2015 #32

Au contraire, LoZo trolled very well indeed Fumesucker Feb 2015 #22

Fuck that! He trolled BRILLIANTLY! And for quite some time. 11 Bravo Feb 2015 #159

Got a well deservd pizza for being a troll Fumesucker Feb 2015 #18

Ah, so this entire subthread is not even subtlety calling Dantex a troll. KittyWampus Feb 2015 #43

LoZo was a pragmatic moderate centrist troll Fumesucker Feb 2015 #57

The opposite to pragmatic is ideologue. And so are you now calling Dantex names KittyWampus Feb 2015 #65

I also mentioned an opposite troll who had a large following Fumesucker Feb 2015 #69

On the left? Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #161

YBBI's posts were usually framed that way, attacks on Obama from the left Fumesucker Feb 2015 #162

No Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #166

Yes, just like LoZoccolo Fumesucker Feb 2015 #167

Many similarities, apparently Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #168

I appreciate your remarkable memory and subtle wit, DU would not be the same without you Fumesucker Feb 2015 #169

BBI was the typical GOP Opposition Research type troll. FSogol Mar 2015 #174

So you are not even subtlety calling Dantex a troll. Cause you don't like the poll. KittyWampus Feb 2015 #46

I can't believe that your post hasn't been removed. ColesCountyDem Feb 2015 #102

What were the jury results? Capt. Obvious Feb 2015 #171

I have no idea. n/t ColesCountyDem Feb 2015 #172

Were you even around for LoZo? Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #154

The problem with the denizens of this board... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #5

Being out of touch with reality explains why the Naderites never actually accomplish anything. DanTex Feb 2015 #12

Yes and No DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #14

That's true. I was referring to 2000 onwards. DanTex Feb 2015 #17

You really are channeling Lozo Capt. Obvious Feb 2015 #24

Ooh, a second personal attack. That 5% number must have stung! DanTex Feb 2015 #25

For someone with such a high opinion of his own intelligence Capt. Obvious Feb 2015 #30

When I make a personal attack I own up to it... DanTex Feb 2015 #51

For someone who thinks they understand what a personal attack is, I'm stunned KittyWampus Feb 2015 #58

You are clearly wrong here. William769 Feb 2015 #80

In this case, I presume they polled... TreasonousBastard Feb 2015 #19

Most folks don't see the world through an ideological lens. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #23

Hand to much thinking leads to more hand to mouth situations. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #27

Hey...there's an idea... ReRe Feb 2015 #103

Amen brother/sister leftynyc Feb 2015 #26

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2015 #97

Yet she lost a 30 point lead to obama is 2008!! Amazing! nt Logical Feb 2015 #8

Well, this time her lead is forty five to fifty points so she has a bigger cushion. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #11

Who is this election cycle's Obama? wyldwolf Feb 2015 #36

sooooo i am very conservative--who would have thunk dembotoz Feb 2015 #9

5 Percenter!!! WOO HOO!!!! bigwillq Feb 2015 #16

I'm a 5%er also. HappyMe Feb 2015 #37

Labels, smabels. bigwillq Feb 2015 #39

lol! HappyMe Feb 2015 #44

MMM....dinner! bigwillq Feb 2015 #47

I had the last slice of lemon pound cake and some coffee. HappyMe Feb 2015 #54

As am I. GoneOffShore Feb 2015 #100

They are so sure that Hillary is the pick that they have to post this. Right? L0oniX Feb 2015 #145

Most people that call themselves "very liberal" are ignorant sheep. n/t Dawgs Feb 2015 #20

I've found that to be the case as well, especially on DU ^^ wyldwolf Feb 2015 #28

Yes, on DU I have found that to be true. They stick to their confirmation bias, call anyone KittyWampus Feb 2015 #40

Bing-effing-O! Excellent conclusion, KW. BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #107

+1 zappaman Feb 2015 #109

I must be one of the few! SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #94

I usually only see attacks on liberals posted on DI. I imagine that same goes for puke sites as well L0oniX Feb 2015 #116

2.5% of voters know what "very liberal" actually means. OnyxCollie Feb 2015 #119

Yet when it is time to beat moral into liberals around here, they are horrible people Rex Feb 2015 #29

Well, the Nader debacle shows that the far left can help the Republicans in close elections. DanTex Feb 2015 #33

Wow, sorry didn't mean to make you mad. Rex Feb 2015 #35

No worries, not mad at all. Cautiously optimistic, based on current polling. This is good news. DanTex Feb 2015 #38

If only those 100k democrats had voted for their party leader and not Bush in Florida. Rex Feb 2015 #41

Hillary seems to have pretty broad appeal though. DanTex Feb 2015 #48

I've said she is a shoe in. Nobody is close to touching her polling numbers. Rex Feb 2015 #52

Shoo-in is putting it too strongly. I'm comfortable with "cautiously optimistic". DanTex Feb 2015 #62

I don't think so, looking at all the fear of HRC so far out. I've never seen such in all my years. Rex Feb 2015 #66

She does elicit strong emotional reactions from teabaggers and Naderites. That is true. DanTex Feb 2015 #71

The highly irrational people you speak of were never going to vote for her. Rex Feb 2015 #75

The GOP is scared, but it's definitely not a "shoo-in". DanTex Feb 2015 #77

I might skip out of here for the primaries. Rex Feb 2015 #83

Oh snap! winter is coming Feb 2015 #49

I hope they take responsiblity for their vote in Florida. Rex Feb 2015 #60

Shh. Don't overwhelm the narrative with facts. n/t winter is coming Feb 2015 #63

Trickle down knowledge. Rex Feb 2015 #67

+1 Marr Feb 2015 #135

The Far Left� is both the most irrelevant and the most powerful voting bloc you'll find.. frylock Feb 2015 #117

Well, they sure are ineffective at accomplishing anything positive. DanTex Feb 2015 #121

another excellent effort at GOTV! frylock Feb 2015 #125

Well, I wouldn't say "large groups". DanTex Feb 2015 #127

yes, yes. We're at the irrelevant stage for now.. frylock Feb 2015 #131

That all depends on what the 5%-ers decide to do. DanTex Feb 2015 #132

define "work against the Democrats".. frylock Feb 2015 #133

Well, in 2000, it meant going around and discouraging people from voting Democratic by DanTex Feb 2015 #136

you're working under the false assumption that those votes were going to Gore in the first place.. frylock Feb 2015 #138

There's a lot of blame to go around for 2000. It's not 100% Nader's fault, I agree with you there. DanTex Feb 2015 #141

Dislike having to say this to you, most likely Gore won Florida if there were a total recount :-( mrdmk Feb 2015 #164

I know that. But without Nader, there would be no recount. DanTex Feb 2015 #165

So the Dem Party doesn't need the Liberal vote? That is certainly the message that has been sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #144

Well, the overwhelming majority of liberals like Hillary Clinton. So "liberal" is the wrong DanTex Feb 2015 #146

You didn't pay close attention to the mid terms if you think that Liberals didn't 'mobilize'. They sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #148

That's because they are uninformed concerning connections mmonk Feb 2015 #31

Gee, you can't trust POLLING..... brooklynite Feb 2015 #34

So either we have an abundance of the 5% and moderates or RW disrupters Renew Deal Feb 2015 #42

Interesting. Historic NY Feb 2015 #45

Kick & highly recommended. William769 Feb 2015 #50

I'm sorry your thread ended up being about MineralMan Feb 2015 #56

Yes, it really is a shame.. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #86

HRC - An Economic Royalist At Heart cantbeserious Feb 2015 #70

I've never heard of... sendero Feb 2015 #73

Public Policy Polling... DanTex Feb 2015 #74

... sendero Feb 2015 #76

LOL. Poll-trutherism at its finest. DanTex Feb 2015 #78

Cherry picking.. sendero Feb 2015 #79

No cherry picking. That OP is factually wrong. DanTex Feb 2015 #82

Actually, I've been polled by Public Policy Polling a number of times. blue neen Feb 2015 #87

You left out this quote from Wiki: blue neen Feb 2015 #90

Yes, but that one isn't here to promote truth or objectivity, I've noticed. BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #111

"Before you speak, investigate." - Mao Zedong DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #81

And you've been here since 2002? sharp_stick Feb 2015 #151

I'm impressed that she is the lead Republican libodem Feb 2015 #84

Interesting poll Bradical79 Feb 2015 #85

Ok..once again.. BrainDrain Feb 2015 #88

That would be poll trutherism. DanTex Feb 2015 #89

probably not... BrainDrain Feb 2015 #140

They don't handpick the results. They conduct a poll and then publish the numbers. DanTex Feb 2015 #142

UNSKEW THAT POLL sharp_stick Feb 2015 #152

Favored! Badass Liberal Feb 2015 #91

Nonsense. This doesn't pass the smell test. I don't know what analytical or semantic manipulation GoneFishin Feb 2015 #92

Poll trutherism strikes again.... DanTex Feb 2015 #95

Do you see anyhing that disputes the result other than your opinion? regards uponit7771 Feb 2015 #98

And this is based on what analytic study you have conducted? Please share with us, nt Fla Dem Feb 2015 #106

"5% of very liberal voters disapprove of right-leaning corporatist candidate". Like I said, GoneFishin Feb 2015 #156

Oh my. blue neen Feb 2015 #93

Amen! Badass Liberal Feb 2015 #99

Exactly. blue neen Feb 2015 #143

Boom goes the dynamite !!! uponit7771 Feb 2015 #96

Strip out the tedious DU navel-gazing and this raises interesting questions whatthehey Feb 2015 #101

I can see that JohnnyRingo Feb 2015 #104

good god the daily worship of hilliary is nauseating RedstDem Feb 2015 #105

No more than anti-Clinton people act like Teabaggers. BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #108

Nothing worse than facts and poll numbers... DanTex Feb 2015 #113

Blinded them with science DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #126

I'm part of the 5%. Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #110

That can't be right. A poster just told us that 47% of the base finds Hillary unfavourable... SidDithers Feb 2015 #114

What a load of shit. L0oniX Feb 2015 #115

What percentage of senators voted against the IWR and Bush's war? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #118

They obviously don't spend time on DU. They don't even know what a true liberal is. n/t Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #120

Key word: Voters. jeff47 Feb 2015 #122

again, fantastic news! I can go back to voting my conscience.. frylock Feb 2015 #123

You'd think that instead of creating a personality cult.. raindaddy Feb 2015 #124

+1 mmonk Feb 2015 #130

The problem with this poll is that it is not a scientific poll of DU members. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #129

It appears that the "somewhat conservative" and "very conservative" people are anti-Hillary Clinton. BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #134

They must have gone to Teabag City for this poll. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #139

You are supporting Hillary with a textbook logical fallacy LittleBlue Feb 2015 #147

I'm not supporting anyone based on anything. Just pointing out that the overwhelming majority of DanTex Feb 2015 #149

Respectfully, "overwhelming" nothing. That poll only included 310 democrats. Even fewer "liberals" NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #155

It has a margin of error of 5.6% among Dems. Which means, yes, overwhelming. DanTex Feb 2015 #157

She's not my first choice but Drale Feb 2015 #153

All this tells me is: Maedhros Feb 2015 #158

I'm gonna laugh when she loses RedstDem Feb 2015 #160

Doesn't matter. What matters is policy, not popularity. Scuba Feb 2015 #170