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Showing Original Post only (View all)GREENWALD: WHY DOES FBI MANUFACTURE ITS OWN PLOTS IF TERRORISM & ISIS ARE SUCH GRAVE THREATS? [View all]
WHY DOES THE FBI HAVE TO MANUFACTURE ITS OWN PLOTS IF TERRORISM AND ISIS ARE SUCH GRAVE THREATS?By Glenn Greenwald * The Intercept * Feb. 26, 2015
The FBI and major media outlets yesterday trumpeted the agencys latest counterterrorism triumph: the arrest of three Brooklyn men, ages 19 to 30, on charges of conspiring to travel to Syria to fight for ISIS (photo of joint FBI/NYPD press conference, above). As my colleague Murtaza Hussain ably documents, it appears that none of the three men was in any condition to travel or support the Islamic State, without help from the FBI informant. One of the frightening terrorist villains told the FBI informant that, beyond having no money, he had encountered a significant problem in following through on the FBIs plot: his mom had taken away his passport. Noting the bizarre and unhinged ranting of one of the suspects, Hussain noted on Twitter that this case sounds like another victory for the FBI over the mentally ill.
In this regard, this latest arrest appears to be quite similar to the overwhelming majority of terrorism arrests the FBI has proudly touted over the last decade. As my colleague Andrew Fishman and I wrote last month after the FBI manipulated a 20-year-old loner who lived with his parents into allegedly agreeing to join an FBI-created plot to attack the Capitol these cases follow a very clear pattern:
The known facts from this latest case seem to fit well within a now-familiar FBI pattern whereby the agency does not disrupt planned domestic terror attacks but rather creates them, then publicly praises itself for stopping its own plots.
First, they target a Muslim: not due to any evidence of intent or capability to engage in terrorism, but rather for the radical political views he expresses. In most cases, the Muslim targeted by the FBI is a very young (late teens, early 20s), adrift, unemployed loner who has shown no signs of mastering basic life functions, let alone carrying out a serious terror attack, and has no known involvement with actual terrorist groups.
They then find another Muslim who is highly motivated to help disrupt a terror plot: either because theyre being paid substantial sums of money by the FBI or because (as appears to be the case here) they are charged with some unrelated crime and are desperate to please the FBI in exchange for leniency (or both). The FBI then gives the informant a detailed attack plan, and sometimes even the money and other instruments to carry it out, and the informant then shares all of that with the target. Typically, the informant also induces, lures, cajoles, and persuades the target to agree to carry out the FBI-designed plot. In some instances where the target refuses to go along, they have their informant offer huge cash inducements to the impoverished target.
Once they finally get the target to agree, the FBI swoops in at the last minute, arrests the target, issues a press release praising themselves for disrupting a dangerous attack (which it conceived of, funded, and recruited the operatives for), and the DOJ and federal judges send their target to prison for years or even decades (where they are kept in special GITMO-like units). Subservient U.S. courts uphold the charges by applying such a broad and permissive interpretation of entrapment that it could almost never be successfully invoked.
Once again, we should all pause for a moment to thank the brave men and women of the FBI for saving us from their own terror plots.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-terrorism-isis-grave-threats/
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GREENWALD: WHY DOES FBI MANUFACTURE ITS OWN PLOTS IF TERRORISM & ISIS ARE SUCH GRAVE THREATS? [View all]
99th_Monkey
Feb 2015
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WHY DOES GREENWALD MANUFACTURE HIS OWN CONSPIRACIES IF NSA AND FBI ARE SUCH GRAVE THREATS?
uhnope
Feb 2015
#80
Have you a clue who the Miami 5 are? Just one example. Go scream at someone else. nt
Mnemosyne
Feb 2015
#89
Don't know, but anyone who would fall for that shit shouldn't be on the street in the first place.
DescendantOfMany
Feb 2015
#2
Whoever asks someone to 'blow some shit up' shouldn't be on the street either.
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#170
Isnt there a new streamline boarding thing you can buy that allows you to bypass a lot of the
randys1
Feb 2015
#49
Please carefully explain Greenwald's slanted framing. Thank you in advance. nt
ChisolmTrailDem
Feb 2015
#34
With the way things are going over at The Intercept, I suppose he feels a need to publish now
MADem
Feb 2015
#154
You knew I'd show up asking about the links you brought up, the links showing Greenwald lies.
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#15
Would you give an example of a negative slant of his that should be portrayed in a more favorable...
ret5hd
Feb 2015
#58
"It's not a question of negative versus positive." said the guy who also said "He puts a negative ..
Scuba
Feb 2015
#124
pwmom's post # 42 does not address the question, it just picks apart one incident.
Scuba
Feb 2015
#146
The post clearly shows that the suspect openly admitted he wanted to shoot Obama.
randome
Feb 2015
#148
The FBI is cooking up plots to keep us fearful. Your authoritarian perspective on it was expected.
Scuba
Feb 2015
#162
Lol, all those awards he's racking up, two Academies, one Pulitzer, one Directors' Guild Award so
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#167
That is incorrect because what he's talking about doesn't only pertain to foreign communications.
Vattel
Feb 2015
#116
It does or he fails to even address the point, leaving his readers to assume the worst.
randome
Feb 2015
#131
Just so happens criteria, routing, and cooperative intelligence set up this to include
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#173
Questionable? The facts aren't even debated, you are dancing on a mote of dust in the air.
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#176
A reason in this situation does not square the practices generally or even make them acceptable
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#187
sensational claims in Greenwald's headlines are never backed up by the article. that's called lying
uhnope
Feb 2015
#74
Uh, yeah, and then there's the whole 'cui bono?' (who benefits?) thing to
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#182
Damn, but I wish you would replace Comey as FBI Director. Your post is the most
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#183
....the smart ones might be unlikely to seek our violent outlets for their frustrations anyway....
Adam051188
Feb 2015
#25
unfortunately, intelligence and psychopathy are not negatively correlated nt
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#26
They may not be of above-average intelligence but dollars to doughnuts, I'll bet
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#184
but they're also then going to be more difficult to recruit because they'll
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#78
by this logic we should entrap everyone on everything citing "a common purpose."
nashville_brook
Feb 2015
#65
More terror apologia from the man who thinks Matt Hale, white supremacist, is wrongly imprisoned....
msanthrope
Feb 2015
#32
Do you really think, after your last self-deleted OP, that you should be trying to engage me?
msanthrope
Feb 2015
#43
Indeed....and sometimes, cops use people who have already done crimes to catch others, or to
msanthrope
Feb 2015
#53
I will engage you whenever I want. If you don't like it, please put me on 'ignore' already.
99th_Monkey
Feb 2015
#63
Did you just use airquotes around the word "racist?" Wow. As for your point about
msanthrope
Feb 2015
#71
Well, you can put me on ignore if you don't like reading what I have to write
msanthrope
Feb 2015
#193
If anyone could discover why plots would be created then Greenwald would be ace #1.
Thinkingabout
Feb 2015
#33
People who are afraid are more willing to give up their freedom to someone who claims
Maedhros
Feb 2015
#35
Same reason the Flt 77 hijackers couldn't have done it without money from the Saudi Ambassadors wife
leveymg
Feb 2015
#40
I've wondered that myself. What do they gain by goading people into doing criminal acts?
Rex
Feb 2015
#41
"Adrift unemployed loner" with no connections with known terrorist groups unfortunately can describe
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#42
Essentially, you are OK with people being imprisoned for radical politics.[n/t]
Maedhros
Feb 2015
#107
Damn Greenwald, why won't he let them plot their own terror attacks and blame them on
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#99
Well you know how much 'craves ATTENTION'. Though I have to say, before they started attacking him
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#118
good question. and why do all the international terrorists have british and american accents?
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#112
Yes, it's not at all uncommon. The incident I referred to happened in Basra. When they British
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#177
This has happened time and time again, could smell that old stinky fish wafting
2banon
Feb 2015
#132