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bvar22

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162. Turned his back on

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 04:46 PM

Feb 2015

[font color=white]......[/font][font size=4]Obama's Army for “CHANGE”, Jan. 21, 2009[/font]

[font color=white].....................[/font][font size=4]"Oh, What could have been."[/font]

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Sanders: Obama lost touch with grass-roots movement [View all] n2doc Feb 2015 OP

crazy that Obama ever thought he could negotiate with repukes Skittles Feb 2015 #1

Or that he believed more in his own idea of himself truebluegreen Feb 2015 #16

...or, at least that was the cover story. (N/T) bvar22 Feb 2015 #23

pfft...sigh randys1 Feb 2015 #26

Christ. joshcryer Feb 2015 #59

Key word "campaigned". cui bono Feb 2015 #98

It was a campaign promise. joshcryer Feb 2015 #112

So leaving the grass roots behind was a campaign promise? cui bono Feb 2015 #116

He "campaigned" on many things... bvar22 Feb 2015 #109

Absolutely idiotic. joshcryer Feb 2015 #111

Speaking of idiotic, something you are personally familiar with, bvar22 Feb 2015 #113

LOL, it continues! joshcryer Feb 2015 #114

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #117

Welcome to DU! cui bono Feb 2015 #119

That the ACA was a "cover story"? joshcryer Feb 2015 #131

You have really lost the plot. The smiley is the final proof. cui bono Feb 2015 #118

That is a diversion and you know it. joshcryer Feb 2015 #130

You are the one who is practicing diversion and is in the "fucking twilight zone". cui bono Feb 2015 #135

So what did you expect him to do? joshcryer Feb 2015 #139

If he really wanted the public option, why did he have secret meetings with big pharma? cui bono Feb 2015 #144

The public option was on the table. joshcryer Feb 2015 #147

So you don't know how to negotiate or are you just pretending not to so you can cui bono Feb 2015 #149

I saw what happened, historically. joshcryer Feb 2015 #150

He absolutely shut out single-payer. He didn't campaign on having secret meetings with big pharma cui bono Feb 2015 #159

He never advocated for single payer. joshcryer Feb 2015 #160

LOL! cui bono Feb 2015 #167

Making stuff up again? bvar22 Feb 2015 #133

+1 for truth. Truth that some just don't want to hear. n/t cui bono Feb 2015 #136

Obama didn't have the votes. joshcryer Feb 2015 #138

He NEVER tried to get the votes. cui bono Feb 2015 #145

That is a lie repeated here quite often. joshcryer Feb 2015 #148

Did you watch the video of Candidate Obama. bvar22 Feb 2015 #164

Yes, his Harry and Louise ads. joshcryer Feb 2015 #165

LOL,..I wonder... Stellar Feb 2015 #153

Just typical ratfucking. joshcryer Feb 2015 #154

hurt feelings Stellar Feb 2015 #166

Funny how there has to be some nefarious plot behind all criticism of Obama cui bono Feb 2015 #158

aww tsk, tsk... Stellar Feb 2015 #168

Well that was an informative, well thought out post. cui bono Feb 2015 #169

Indeed . . . markpkessinger Feb 2015 #17

yup Skittles Feb 2015 #21

And inexcusable political naivete is the most charitable explanation I can come up with. . . . markpkessinger Feb 2015 #30

bvar posted another explanation above. cui bono Feb 2015 #99

That is crazy. It's been obvious for a very long time that they are off the deep end. DanTex Feb 2015 #25

You are fortunate. It is not a nice experience. Only God knows what jeapordy you are in. olegramps Feb 2015 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2015 #2

Agree completely n/t MissDeeds Feb 2015 #6

Dropped like a rock... daleanime Feb 2015 #10

change you can beLIEve in blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #13

Exactly. obxhead Feb 2015 #15

Lost Touch HA... 1norcal Feb 2015 #19

Yes, he is being diplomatic ... sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #20

I don't believe he was ever in touch Mnpaul Feb 2015 #49

This is where it really is. He shut down his own movement in favor of "inside baseball" TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #50

+10000000000000000 woo me with science Feb 2015 #54

yes. almost immediately after he won it became pretty obvious that his grassroots wasn't ND-Dem Feb 2015 #62

Bait & switch nt RiverLover Feb 2015 #94

That's exactly how I feel. cui bono Feb 2015 #120

Yes. 840high Feb 2015 #128

Bernie never said in the article that Obama lost touch but you know, continue to believe anything.. uponit7771 Feb 2015 #142

His actions further it more than anything we believe. n/t cui bono Feb 2015 #146

Yeap, Obama has complete 85% of his agenda the 15% that hasn't been done (not from him trying uponit7771 Feb 2015 #156

The agenda of a self-described moderate Republican. n/t cui bono Feb 2015 #161

Turned his back on bvar22 Feb 2015 #162

"Sanders said he agrees with Obama on many issues, disagrees with him on some and considers the pampango Feb 2015 #3

Oh I SO agree with this. SoapBox Feb 2015 #7

I WISH it amazed me, SoapBox, elleng Feb 2015 #12

I think they really are brainwashed Mnpaul Feb 2015 #52

Not long ago I was on a concert tour in Scandinavia... SomethingFishy Feb 2015 #47

Kicked Enthusiast Feb 2015 #4

I had hope until I heard about Rahm Emanuel being chief of staff LiberalArkie Feb 2015 #5

My denial mechanisms survived Rahm's appointment. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #37

I knew something was very wrong when he invited Rick Warren to say a prayer at his rhett o rick Feb 2015 #57

yes, that was a pretty blatant kick in the teeth. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #63

+10. Rick Warren? Unreal. Perhaps to try to difuse the Rev. Wright controversy. appalachiablue Feb 2015 #69

I think he wanted to signal the Conservatives that he wasn't really a Progressive. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #76

Exactly how I felt at the time. Bernie is being diplomatic in his comments. Nay Feb 2015 #107

If Sen Sanders becomes a Democrat, I don't expect the Third Way Party Machine rhett o rick Feb 2015 #108

Oh, I don't expect they'll help willingly. But I don't know exactly how they can REFUSE Nay Feb 2015 #127

I don't think they are obligated in any legal way. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #129

His Hug-the-Homophobes!!! campaign strategy gave me doubts, QC Feb 2015 #72

As a member of the Loyalty Test Brigade (as you label us) I was disappointed in that as well. BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #81

But here is you from 2004...all Bible and gay marriage is unthinkable.... Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #170

K & R mountain grammy Feb 2015 #8

I'm more cynical than Bernie Doctor_J Feb 2015 #9

people dazzled by purty speeches are easily fooled Skittles Feb 2015 #22

"Hope & Change" was nothing more... bvar22 Feb 2015 #24

Never was a big fan of candidate Obama bigwillq Feb 2015 #46

I wasn't dialed in. Head over heels in love with him Doctor_J Feb 2015 #55

Instead of pardoning Democratic Governor Don Seigelman on day one, bvar22 Feb 2015 #134

Candidate Obama was an image 100% fabricated to win votes. Nothing more, nothing less. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #11

Read the entire article. Sanders just makes so much sense. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #14

He certainly does BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #48

Disingenuous OP title, stating the obvious and not including Obama as a "losing touch" is not uponit7771 Feb 2015 #18

Easy for certain folk to monday morning QB what the first BLACK president had to do just randys1 Feb 2015 #27

sorry, no Skittles Feb 2015 #31

YEAH, the first Black president in the face of unprecedented obstruction based solely on racism randys1 Feb 2015 #33

omg, please Skittles Feb 2015 #35

He didn't run on being a dictator!! "Obama had all the power" is such a tired winger meme uponit7771 Feb 2015 #141

OMG what's next, the magic wand meme? Skittles Feb 2015 #143

In other words, we shouldn't have elected him? eShirl Feb 2015 #65

Actually, while I of course voted for him and worked for his campaign, in retrospect it randys1 Feb 2015 #95

Perhaps we should of had Hillary with President Obama as Vice President yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #97

That strategy would not have guaranteed 16 years. There are very few guarantees totodeinhere Feb 2015 #103

You do have a point yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #106

FUDrs would do the same to Liz if she ever went middle on any issue... uponit7771 Feb 2015 #140

Obama's movement was never a populist movement of working class voters. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #28

Shhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #39

young voters didn't get what they voted for. which is why a lot of them didn't vote the ND-Dem Feb 2015 #64

Hahahahaha.............. cui bono Feb 2015 #121

Bernie is wise. Autumn Feb 2015 #29

Senator Sanders is wise in his philosophies and theories, but it wouldn't wash in the "real" world BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #83

Yeah right, whatever. Have a nice day. Autumn Feb 2015 #84

I see. Not ready to face reality, eh, Autumn. Well, have a nice day, too. eom BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #85

Here's my reality. You keep voting for moderate republicans cloaked in that magic D you get Autumn Feb 2015 #88

The reality is, Autumn, without a liberal Congress, it doesn't matter how liberal the president is. BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #93

The "real" world is what you make it. cui bono Feb 2015 #122

Maybe in YOUR version of the "real world", but not in this one, cui bono. You can wish for a liberal BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #132

Wll if you can't conceive it, it certainly will never happen. cui bono Feb 2015 #137

Although I was surprised that a Black man would become president in my lifetime, I shouldn't have BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #155

Yeah, you're right about the charisma, but perhaps people are starving for someone who cui bono Feb 2015 #157

K and R bigwillq Feb 2015 #32

Jettisoned is the word I'd use FiveGoodMen Feb 2015 #34

I call bullshite on the headline.. I am part of President Obama's grassroots and he hasn't Cha Feb 2015 #36

So am I michello Feb 2015 #38

Really. What has the Obama White House asked you to do specifically? Damansarajaya Feb 2015 #102

But then ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #40

I consider the source of those who are name calling their little insults. I am in good company.. Cha Feb 2015 #42

That's not going to improve your DU favorability rating! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #44

Oh, you mean those who are so brainwashed they can't acknowledge all the Progress that has been Cha Feb 2015 #125

Yep. n/t. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #126

Well then I guess you were expecting Republican policies to be enacted by him. cui bono Feb 2015 #123

Fascinating reactions in this thread wyldwolf Feb 2015 #41

Not from me.. equal time. They can criticize all they damn please but it better be about facts. Cha Feb 2015 #43

But DUers are not allowed to criticize when it's about facts... cui bono Feb 2015 #124

Oh. You noticed that? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #45

I like Bernie but there is no way I will vote for him till he puts a D next to his name. dilby Feb 2015 #51

Good use of your vote GummyBearz Feb 2015 #58

because splitting votes will be so much better for us. dilby Feb 2015 #61

He said awhile ago if he does run JonLP24 Feb 2015 #66

Actually, this past weekend, Senator Sanders isn't all that sure he'll run as a Democrat. BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #86

He hasn't decided if he is going to run JonLP24 Feb 2015 #89

Yeah, I don't trust Politico.com, either. So I looked up the video on YouTube: BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #91

"I don't want to say that. I'm in Iowa, a caucus state -- that should speak for itself" JonLP24 Feb 2015 #92

Reporter: "How, in practical terms, would a Sanders candidacy work? Would you run as a Democrat?" BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #96

The Iowa Caucus & speaks for itself comes immediately after the "I don't want to say that" JonLP24 Feb 2015 #100

(not really)? Clinton during '08 made a lot of unfair criticisms on over meaningless issues JonLP24 Feb 2015 #67

The conversation is about PRESIDENT Obama, not CANDIDATE Obama wyldwolf Feb 2015 #70

You brought up criticisms from Hillary Clinton JonLP24 Feb 2015 #71

yes I did. Funny you're the only one who is (pretending to?) missing the context. wyldwolf Feb 2015 #73

Pretending to? JonLP24 Feb 2015 #74

Yeah, after I clarified to you the context of the discussion, you're still arguing your point. wyldwolf Feb 2015 #75

I offered an explanation, a clarification JonLP24 Feb 2015 #77

An explanation of what? No explanation was needed. It really is quite simple wyldwolf Feb 2015 #78

Still pulling a Limbaugh and trying to make the word progressive a slur? LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #79

He certainly eliminates himself from the group he derisively calls "progressives". bvar22 Feb 2015 #163

An explanation to why I referenced 2008 criticisms JonLP24 Feb 2015 #80

The first step we must take to have President Bernie Sanders... 99Forever Feb 2015 #53

All mainstream candidates use populist rhetoric during campaign seasons JonLP24 Feb 2015 #68

The oligarchy had other plans. L0oniX Feb 2015 #56

It's the economy, Stupid, and we SHOULD have 99% on our side. Bonobo Feb 2015 #60

Not sure that is a fair assessment of Obama. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #82

I concur 110% with your post. That's how I see it, too, NCTraveler. eom BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #87

If anyone read "Audacity of Hope" in which Obama talks about TBF Feb 2015 #90

EXACTLY RIGHT! Pardon my all caps, but Damansarajaya Feb 2015 #101

Yes, that's my perspective too unfortunately. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #110

Lost touch? No he actively worked to diffuse grass roots movements. Teamster Jeff Feb 2015 #104

Opportunity Lost that never really was ... Agony Feb 2015 #115

What grass roots movement is that? BeyondGeography Feb 2015 #151

His mistaken belief that he could please the "insiders" Euphoria Feb 2015 #152