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WilmywoodNCparalegal

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33. Here are my observations
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 04:18 PM
Apr 2012

I have lived in NC since 1987, with a 5-year interlude in NYC. I have lived in rural NC, urban NC during the college years, and coastal NC since 2007.

1. Migration - the cost of living is exceptionally appealing to people from the northeast (especially NY, NJ, MD, MA) and the weather is mostly good, especially by the ocean (hurricanes are not as frequent as people think) - a NYer or NJer whose humble abode may cost upwards of $400K in NY or NJ will find that the same amount just about buys a mansion down here and there is little to no snow to plow.

2. Education - while rural NC still lags behind, especially at the public school levels K-12, the universities and colleges are excellent. I am lucky enough to have gone to two of the big three in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hell (I mean... Hill). NC State is an excellent facility for engineering, architecture, veterinary, textiles and the sciences. Duke is one of the top universities in the nation. Though its student population is small (about 10,000 or so), its students hail from all states and many foreign countries. Its medical center is one of the best in the nation and, of course, it has Cameron Indoor Stadium, one of the best places to catch college hoops. Yes, there's also that place in Chapel Hill. And don't forget Wake Forest University, Davidson College, all the other UNC schools (UNC-Wilmington excels in a few fields including creative writing and marine biology) and the myriad others.

3. Investment in R&D - way back in the 1970s, a few pioneering NC minds envisioned a high tech corridor between Raleigh and Durham that would be appetizing for start-ups and multinationals alike, dedicated to technology, science, research and pharmaceuticals, bolstered by the excellent universities in the area. Companies like Nortel, IBM, Glaxo, SAS, etc. moved in and now Research Triangle Park is the hotbed of what's new and upcoming.

4. Progress - I've seen a subtle change in the beliefs that North Carolinians hold. While some troglodytes do survive (witness the Marriage Amendment 'For' forces), even native NCers are slowly progressing toward more inclusionary and progressive ideals. Part of this slow change is also due to the death of industries that thrived on lower-skilled and less educated labor such as textiles. As people have had to gain more knowledge to thrive in the new NC, so they have acquired a bit more progressive outlook. Now, this is a slow change, but it has definitely moved forward since my arrival in 1987.

I can't speak for W. Va. though.

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West Virginia IS a Blue State...it is not a LIBERAL state. brooklynite Apr 2012 #1
obama gore & kerry are more liberal than clinton carter and humphrey? not seeing the big HiPointDem Apr 2012 #2
Obama is not a liberal. He is more moderate then anything. southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #3
I was thinking the same thing. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #4
+1 Vincardog Apr 2012 #5
Conservative on deportations, drone strikes, surveillance, and deep-water oil drilling, tblue Apr 2012 #10
And his economic ideology is more like Reagan than FDR. Lasher Apr 2012 #20
LOL, cheer up. We could still get Mittens and his Bush neoncons back. southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #32
I'll bet Romney and the neocons would have us in Afghanistan for at least another decade. Lasher Apr 2012 #45
Yep especially since they all are the same ones that worked for Bush. southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #46
The Research Triangle is Fawke Em Apr 2012 #6
Charlotte is too. DCBob Apr 2012 #12
Bingo! n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #26
Raleigh is a very happening city XemaSab Apr 2012 #47
Hmmm. Found this article on NC's changing demographics: tblue Apr 2012 #7
Thanks for the link. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #24
Always Follow Your Civil War History, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #8
We were the last of the Southern states to get involved in the Civil War.... NCarolinawoman Apr 2012 #19
North Carolina and Virginia were reluctant and slow to join the rebellion. grantcart Apr 2012 #21
Most West Virginia Civil War soldiers probably fought for the Union. Lasher Apr 2012 #27
Ancestors Of Mine Came From there, Sir, And Indeed Fought For the Union The Magistrate Apr 2012 #29
NC was dragged into the Civil War by the rich planters on the East Coast obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #35
A few reasons for NC ... JoePhilly Apr 2012 #9
Yup, Kerry carried Guilford County (Greensboro) in 2004. eom tledford Apr 2012 #18
education has strange impacts on voters. They start to think. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2012 #11
How do states go back and forth? former9thward Apr 2012 #34
one of my neighbors melm00se Apr 2012 #13
Happy to be a transplanted carpetbagger Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #14
The state dun growed. jeff47 Apr 2012 #15
The University of North Carolina Yavin4 Apr 2012 #16
NC State's Veterinarian School is now ranked #3 in the country. NCarolinawoman Apr 2012 #25
Quite a few northern liberals are retiring to NC rox63 Apr 2012 #17
I wouldn't give them the credit -- homegrown Tarheels have changed the state obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #37
People moving in KamaAina Apr 2012 #22
For the same reason that AZ has become a toss up - migration. grantcart Apr 2012 #23
Three of the reasons West Virginia has been trending red: Lasher Apr 2012 #28
Unfortunately for me, many of you CRK7376 Apr 2012 #30
Don't forget the Asheville and Boone area obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #38
Education RobertEarl Apr 2012 #31
Here are my observations WilmywoodNCparalegal Apr 2012 #33
So hopefully it will become solid blue in another 5 to 10 years Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #40
Quite a bit of the state is blue, and even purple obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #36
I personally believe it is because of the big academic presence combined with the tech Butterbean Apr 2012 #39
I think reverse immigration is part of WV's issue MountainLaurel Apr 2012 #41
North Carolina has a strong labor tradition. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #42
One of the most famous organizers was Crystal Lee Sutton aka Norma Rae obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #43
Those fights with J.P. Stevens are incredible. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #44
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