I am disgusted by the whole "party loyalty" meme

[daredtowork]

110. Calling you "disloyal" is not "besting you in an argument"

And just asserting that someone is complaining about being disagreed with is not besting them in an argument either.

In speaking of argument tactics, you've whipped this one out before. I remember you used it to somehow delegitimize me having an opinion that differed from you about Snowden. Which was rich, since you were the one was having the problem with others disagreeing with you that Snowden was anything but a traitor.

I agree with the opinion you PURPORT to have - that on a forum people are free to disagree and when those disagreements are respectfully stated, the people making those arguments should be respected, and arguments should be conducted on the terms of those arguments alone. I think the reality is that people hold certain political tenets like religious beliefs, though. I doubt anyone is going to convert me to supporting the TPP, though I won't regard them as disloyal Democrats if they try.

I certainly agree with you about the Supreme Court, but again I'm not going to let the future Presidential election be used to maneuver me into pre-approving the Third-Way-chosen Primary candidate now - especially one that doesn't seem in tune with the issues I care most about. As the DU TOS, said, this is the period when we get to discuss different candidates and different ideas.