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In reply to the discussion: History question - Did we call the Irish Republican Army "Roman Catholic Terrorists"? [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)understand it as a word that describes the original 'terrorists' themselves, those who ruled France after the Revolution in a 'reign of terror'.
Bush probably had no clue that it was the RULERS who were the actual terrorists. As in his case.
And as in the case of the British Empire, and all other Empires.
My point regarding the FFs is not about words, it is about how they were viewed by the British Monarch at the time. They were 'traitors' or 'criminals' and today would be called 'terrorists'.
All those who rebelled against Colonial Imperialism are called 'traitors/terrorists/criminals by the actual Terrorists, the RULERS who invade and slaughter civilians in order to steal and conquer and occupy their lands.
Since you raised the issues, it would be ridiculous to call the rebels, brutal or not, 'terrorists' since as you point out, it was the Rulers who were the actual 'terrorists'.
War results in the deaths of innocent people, which is why it should be avoided.
The War in the North of Ireland resulted in the deaths of innocent people by BOTH SIDES.
You, however have gone through this thread ignoring the millions of deaths inflicted by the British on the Irish down through the centuries, and the BIGOTRY and denial of basic human rights that continued in the North AFTER the 'terrorists' in the Republic of Ireland, took BACK three of Ireland's Four Provinces and freed that part of the country from centuries of murder and torture and BIGOTRY and poverty and theft.
Had the agreement included the Northern province, the IRA would have had no further purpose because the Native Irish in their own country would have had all their rights restored, as in the Republic.
But that was not the case. The Native Irish continued to be impoverished, denied rights, thrown in prison, tortured and killed, yes killed, for daring to ask for those rights.
Not to mention the INFILTRATION of the splinter groups of the IRA by British Agents who participated for YEARS in the violence, sometimes INSTIGATING it in order to protect themselves from discovery.
War is hell, and the War in the North was hell, on all sides.
Thankfully for the most part, and thanks to the Political Wing of the IRA and to people like Clinton among others, the war appears to be over and now the job of maintaining that peace is in progress.
Hopefully the haters will be sidelined, the bigots and instigators no longer credible, there is a chance that this time it will last.