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In reply to the discussion: As a member of what has become known as the "far left" those who attack me here don't anger me [View all]Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)122. I haven't ever advocated any of the things you list
all guns should be destroyed, capitalism needs to be overturned, wealth caps should be put in place at a millions rather than billions level if at all, military budgets should be cut by 90%, whole industries should be nationalized, bank CEOs should be imprisoned en masse etc etc
And yet I get the label "far left" or "fringe left" thrown at me fairly regularly and I know I'm not alone.
It seems to me to be more about candidates and personalities than anything. For instance if you aren't "Ready for Hillary" at this moment there is a clique here who delight in throwing terms like fringe left around despite the fact that Hillary hasn't even declared she is running yet and probably won't for quite some time yet.
What's interesting to me is that the 1956 Republican platform sounds like a leftish Democrat now, you really don't have to go much further left to be labeled fringe or far left these days.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/print.php?pid=25838
On social services:
We are proud of and shall continue our far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needsexpansion of social security, broadened coverage in unemployment insurance, improved housing and better health protection for all our people.
On the environment:
We favor a comprehensive study of the effect upon wildlife of the drainage of our wetlands.
We recognize the need for maintaining isolated wilderness areas.
On regulation of business:
A continuously vigorous enforcement of anti-trust laws
Legislation to enable closer Federal scrutiny of mergers which have a significant or potential monopolistic connotations
Procedural changes in the antitrust laws to facilitate their enforcement.
On labor:
Stimulate improved job safety of our workers, through assistance to the States, employees and employers;
Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers;
Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;...
Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex;
Clarify and strengthen the eight-hour laws for the benefit of workers who are subject to federal wage standards on Federal and Federally-assisted construction, and maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing minimum wage law for public supply contracts;
Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;
Continue to fight for the elimination of discrimination in employment because of race, creed, color, national origin, ancestry or sex;
Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment;
Revise and improve the Taft-Hartley Act so as to protect more effectively the rights of labor unions, management, the individual worker, and the public.
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As a member of what has become known as the "far left" those who attack me here don't anger me [View all]
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
OP
I tell people I'm a Democrat by default since there is no viable Socialist option.
hobbit709
Feb 2015
#1
Exactly. In 72 when McGovern was running that is what they called me. I agreed even back then.
jwirr
Feb 2015
#56
Anyone who thinks the far right only exists among Republicans isn't paying attention.
Scootaloo
Feb 2015
#3
Only those who don't think for themselves are consistently "Far Left" or "Far Right"
FLPanhandle
Feb 2015
#7
But single payer isn't just a far left ideal, it is also a conservative ideal.
A Simple Game
Feb 2015
#24
Who doesnt have health care? When you answer that you will see that they would practically
randys1
Feb 2015
#102
Read up on what the law initially said, what Roberts did to the law the first time around
randys1
Feb 2015
#106
lazy and unhelpful. rather than advising me to 'read up' every time you disagree with me,
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#107
you assume too much. as i said, if you tell me to read up, a link would be helpful.
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#157
I agree with your sentiment but NO, the teaparty does NOT want EVERYBODY to have
randys1
Feb 2015
#103
The teaparty are not conservatives, they are reactionaries and often racists among other things.
A Simple Game
Feb 2015
#150
In an winner-takes-all electoral system, a main division into 2 camps is almost inevitable
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#153
What a friend of mine said about me when I said I was more liberal than him
LiberalArkie
Feb 2015
#14
Maybe we need a different term for people who think Dems like Obama and Clinton are no better
DanTex
Feb 2015
#23
he was a conservative republican. in all but name. i don't see why people are so enamoured of him.
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#194
he was economically right wing, so no 'lefty'. libertarians are individualist capitalists who are
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#200
Well that's pretty broad and could include all kinds of moderates and even conservatives.
cbayer
Feb 2015
#77
In nations where oligarchs own and control both the media and the political process,
Zorra
Feb 2015
#96
Appeasement has been shown to be a continuing failed policy of epic proportions.
Zorra
Feb 2015
#116
Honestly, I also believe the chances are slim that a mass general strike will happen,
Zorra
Feb 2015
#169
If you think that there is probably a necessary action that would change things
cbayer
Feb 2015
#209
Those who resort to the ad hominem 'far left' (or various other iterations), rather
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#33
Especially since the Democratic party is actually America's conservative party.
beerandjesus
Feb 2015
#43
The more that some insult the left or progressives, the more the left's influence is being felt
dissentient
Feb 2015
#48
"Far Left" is the modern way of saying "Commie", "Red", "Troublemaker", "Dirty Hippie".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2015
#67
Your philosophy sounds very similar to mine. However, while I consider elections important, I tend
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#101
I Hear Ya Fumesucker! What passes for "Far Left" on DU would be laughable if it were Freeperville
2banon
Feb 2015
#75
I will say that I have seen "liberal" used in ways that are near identical
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#80
I fully agree, at times I have even lost all patience and with it calm civility
Dragonfli
Feb 2015
#165
I probably should, It's just I don't like ignore because with prolific posters it removes so much
Dragonfli
Feb 2015
#195
"'Far left' is a conservative Republican meme" now often heard on this allegedly Democratic
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#100
I have just finished responding to comment accusing me of NOT BEING A DEMOCRAT
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#114
Do you think Obama is too conservative? Only 10% do. How should we describe the leftmost 10%?
whatthehey
Feb 2015
#124
As I pointed out in the OP the Republicans have been "working the refs" for several decades now..
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#125
New Dealism isn't far ANYTHING and the voices outside of that are miniscule functionally, the nation
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#207
But my opinions on *policy* are not that far to the left of what the public says it wants..
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#126
Can you give some examples of these opinions that are to the left of 90+% of the nation? n/t
Kermitt Gribble
Feb 2015
#152
Yeah, this is what happens when everyone moves to the right and we stand still...
SomethingFishy
Feb 2015
#131
There are some who call for the end of capitalism, or a maximum wage
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#155
The screeching, fallacy laden attacks against the left also can be taken another way.
pa28
Feb 2015
#132
Depressed and discouraged? Yes, but mostly it brings into focus that nothing is more
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#143
LOL at the earlier name removed post. Looks like you really pissed off someone
dissentient
Feb 2015
#182
Any "regulating markets" is "far left"? Seems extreme to put regulation and confiscation in the same
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#210
Why should Democrats care if you "simply to wash (your) hands of politics"?
ConservativeDemocrat
Feb 2015
#189
Republicans pushed weak Democrats so far right, that nearly everything is "far left" at this point..
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#191