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In reply to the discussion: I'm disgusted by Democratic disloyalty doing the Koch Brother's job for them [View all]Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)42. Very powerfully written.
So the Democratic Party reflects your views 1000 times more than the Republicans. I'm actually very sorry to hear that.
Because this Democratic Party is a pale shadow of the one I respect and love. We used to call on people to strive for the common good, now, we just want them to strive for the good of our richest supporters.
JFK, announced that we would go to the moon. He did not promise us that we would be first, but absent the effort, we would certainly be last. He did not promise it would be easy. In fact he was right up front with us when he said it would be hard.
But if I were to say, my fellow citizens, that we shall send to the moon, 240,000 miles away from the control station in Houston, a giant rocket more than 300 feet tall, the length of this football field, made of new metal alloys, some of which have not yet been invented, capable of standing heat and stresses several times more than have ever been experienced, fitted together with a precision better than the finest watch, carrying all the equipment needed for propulsion, guidance, control, communications, food and survival, on an untried mission, to an unknown celestial body, and then return it safely to earth, re-entering the atmosphere at speeds of over 25,000 miles per hour, causing heat about half that of the temperature of the sun--almost as hot as it is here today--and do all this, and do it right, and do it first before this decade is out--then we must be bold.
Kennedy made no bones about how hard it would be. It would be nearly impossible to do it before the end of the decade, and it would be after he left the White House no matter what happened. So he could not hope to bask in the glory from the Oval Office when man first stepped on the moon. But it was a goal worth achieving, a goal worth striving for. A burden our nation had to shoulder, together.
How about FDR. His brilliant speech on the Four Freedoms. Talk about grand idealism beyond the reach of mortal men.
In the future days, which we seek to make secure, we look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms.
The first is freedom of speech and expression -- everywhere in the world.
The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way -- everywhere in the world.
The third is freedom from want, which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants -- everywhere in the world.
The fourth is freedom from fear, which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor -- anywhere in the world.
That is no vision of a distant millennium. It is a definite basis for a kind of world attainable in our own time and generation. That kind of world is the very antithesis of the so-called new order of tyranny which the dictators seek to create with the crash of a bomb.
The first is freedom of speech and expression -- everywhere in the world.
The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way -- everywhere in the world.
The third is freedom from want, which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants -- everywhere in the world.
The fourth is freedom from fear, which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor -- anywhere in the world.
That is no vision of a distant millennium. It is a definite basis for a kind of world attainable in our own time and generation. That kind of world is the very antithesis of the so-called new order of tyranny which the dictators seek to create with the crash of a bomb.
I could go on, and on, and on. I could list speeches from the Senate about how our world could be better, but we must strive together to reach that place. I could quote Supreme Court decisions that ordered equality and freedom.
Now days, it seems all I can quote is the disappointments. No charges will be filed by a Democratically managed Justice Department over the murder of unarmed black men. No charges will be filed in the actions of the police to abuse the citizenry of their civil rights. We can't go for Single payer, it's too hard. Imagine my disappointment when I realize the same party that told the world we were going to the moon because it was hard now announces that we can't do things, things that need to be done, because it is too hard.
We used to reach towards the stars, and we reached the moon. We used to strive to improve mankind, and we used to speak from the heart as we described our dreams. Dreams that inspired generations before us. Dreams that filled hearts with joy, the downtrodden with hope, and filled the Congress with Democrats.
Today, we don't dream big, we dream of winning. We don't know what we'll do if we win, but we want to win. We had giants who stood on the mountain and cried out the hopes of the people. Now, we have mice who squeek that the cat won't let us do anything.
I am terribly disappointed in the Democratic Party. I'm disappointed that we aren't doing more. That we aren't striving to right the wrongs. That we aren't holding our hands out and helping the lowest among us stand beside us. I'm disappointed that we have forsaken the ideals of those great men and women who came before us. Some of those older than even myself marched in protests to demand that Blacks be given the right to vote. That segregation be abolished once and for all.
Think about that. Think about it for a minute. There was a time when people like you, and I and most of the folks here would have marched in protests to demand justice for the abused minorities. I marched, and I stood there and demanded that people recognize AIDS was a killer and we should strive for a cure. I protested the asinine sodomy charges that too many of our brothers and sisters endured. I protested an end to the threat of Nuclear War.
We used to demand more from our elected leaders. We used to demand more of our Government. Now we're happy to get less, so long as the other side doesn't get anything. We have become the party that exists for one reason, to oppose anything the Republicans support, and to support anything that the Republicans oppose. That isn't a political party. That isn't even a good script for a half assed B movie about politics.
But this is good for you. This is what you want to see. This is perfect, the awesome culmination of a lifes work, and generations of dreams.
I'm saddened. I'm convinced that those Giants, FDR, Truman, and JFK. I'm convinced that those men would spit on us and call us cowards. I feel certain that those greats who set a standard that we should all strive for would be ashamed to be in the same party with us.
LBJ was a low point, but sadly he seems to have been the mold for the rest of those that came next. Because after LBJ, it seems that we've become casual, relaxed. It's good enough, it's almost like our motto became that of a half assed repairman. That'll do.
That attitude would have prevented Bobby Kennedy from trying to do more after he had given his Brother to the world. But even despite that, Teddy Kennedy stood up and said he would take up the mantle. While he wasn't nominated, he did serve this nation until his death in the Senate, giving us many speeches and votes, and laws that strove to make a difference. That'll do never entered his vocabulary. He fought until the very end for what he believed in. Always striving to do more.
We've set our sights so low that we're in no danger of tripping over them. That's not a good thing. That's not something to cheer. It's something to lament. This is why so many people tune us out. This is why there were four million fewer voters for President Obama in 2012 than in 2008. Because we have decided that'll do is good enough. We don't need to try harder than that.
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I'm disgusted by Democratic disloyalty doing the Koch Brother's job for them [View all]
maxrandb
Feb 2015
OP
I have no idea why that above post was hidden. Who considered that over the top? nt
stevenleser
Mar 2015
#81
I was wondering the same thing, Steven. There was nothing wrong with that post.
greatlaurel
Mar 2015
#90
I was just thinking the same thing! Nowhere near a personal attack and a very honest
Number23
Mar 2015
#138
bernie sanders isn't even a democrat, for god's sake, and patrick leahy isn't a 3rd way
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#30
I'm disgusted by people who think criticism of the Dem RIght is disloyal to the entire party
HereSince1628
Feb 2015
#8
It's also a non-sequitur. My comment was about generalizing authentic criticism
HereSince1628
Feb 2015
#23
Yep. A lot of good it did to elect them "for the sake of the big picture". nt
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#113
Yes and we all see how unsuccessful Teabaggers have been with no compromise. They don't control
Katashi_itto
Mar 2015
#71
And THAT is the Bigger Picture of why this 2016 election is at the critical tipping point.
misterhighwasted
Feb 2015
#38
This group of voters is so small and irrelevant that they really aren't even worth your rant.
tritsofme
Feb 2015
#14
It is continuous and purposeful process. In a few years they will be selling a multicultural,
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#34
Because Democrats didn't vote in 2010, Republicans were able to gerrymander states
Agnosticsherbet
Mar 2015
#103
Wouldn't exposing fractures in the Democratic Party be doing the job of the Koch Brothers?
daredtowork
Feb 2015
#25
While everyone bashes today's Greeks for being lazy profligates, the entire Western
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#140
Loyalty is earned by those who seek it, not something that people they "have" to have...
cascadiance
Feb 2015
#40
Everyone is making up shit about DU these days. This OP is doing the Koch's work for them.
arcane1
Feb 2015
#46
Those who say, “both parties are the same” do not belong to the Democratic party.
TexasProgresive
Feb 2015
#49
I've spoken with plenty of RWNJs and have never heard any of them say that.
truebluegreen
Mar 2015
#64
amazing isn't it, for a "Democratic site, Democratic Underground". This is the same garbage that
still_one
Feb 2015
#52
And I'm disgusted by the Koch and Wall Street-backed "Democrats" in our party ...
Scuba
Mar 2015
#66
Just amazing to see fascism at work in both parties. I no longer doubt the country will be
Katashi_itto
Mar 2015
#70
As a Loyalty Officer for the Glorious Peoples Democratic Party, you must strive harder
Katashi_itto
Mar 2015
#69
The Koch brothers donated to the DLC and served on the DLC's Executive Council.
merrily
Mar 2015
#77
I think people are just plain giving up on the divided political system. While I too identify with
mother earth
Mar 2015
#78
Some are giving up because of gridlock (which doesn't bother conservatives very much) due to an
merrily
Mar 2015
#89
I understand what you mean about imcumbency, but let's face facts. We are all waking up to the
mother earth
Mar 2015
#106
The people who support what you describe. The people who fund it & labor for it.
raouldukelives
Mar 2015
#79
Everyone vote D. End of discussion ...no point in having a website other than to agree to vote D.
L0oniX
Mar 2015
#83
Ohio is rapidly being turned into a third world state. The amount of corruption from Kasich is huge
greatlaurel
Mar 2015
#100
Why didn't Strickland do anything to help stop Big Ag runoff and bad sewage pipes when he was Gov?
RiverLover
Mar 2015
#117
Thanks for the GOP talking points, they sound like something from Rob Portman's campaign
greatlaurel
Mar 2015
#139
Wow, I voted for Fitzgerald, straight Dem, made sure I had the right judges.
RiverLover
Mar 2015
#142
It is folks like you that insist on making that be the choice and it will require folks like you to
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#118
Not all Clinton supporters demand loaylty, but all loyalty-demanders seem to pull for Clinton
Scootaloo
Mar 2015
#124
I will support our nominee. I detest puma people who say they won't support our nominee.
hrmjustin
Mar 2015
#97
Still that provides cover for those opposed to another Clinton administration
AtomicKitten
Mar 2015
#136
People can do what they please but I despised puma in 2008 and despise it now.
hrmjustin
Mar 2015
#137
You're surviving in slow motion. What about the survival of your kids and grandkids?
Bonobo
Mar 2015
#130