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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
43. Which of us is having more influence here?
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:09 PM
Feb 2015

If that's what you care about, influencing people toward your point of view then you are doing it wrong.

There's an organization called Toastmasters that's dedicated to teaching public speaking, you can get up and make a presentation and get critiqued from other members who get up and make their own presentation. You end up with a perfect audience of people who are interested in communication but likely don't know what you know, they will listen to you and tell you what is wrong with your presentation.

http://www.toastmasters.org

You may know science but you don't know people, I'm not that great at in that it doesn't come naturally to me but I was married to a natural people person for a long time and I've watched it done tens of thousands of times. It's like trying to play basketball if you have poor hand eye coordination, you understand how to play and with enough practice you can play but you'll never be great at it.

If you can learn how to respond to people without insulting them you'll do a lot better, you probably thought that remark about my OPs was cutting, I couldn't decide if it was funny or sad. You are the one who showed the closed mind.

"I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him." -Galileo Galilei

You insult me, I try to help you.. See how it works?

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It scares me that there has been no feedback on this one. HuckleB Feb 2015 #1
I think the factor is how ideologically driven someone is - el_bryanto Feb 2015 #2
I used to agree about leftists and science, but not so much any more. HuckleB Feb 2015 #4
I do think this is a human tendency in general. However-- Marr Feb 2015 #3
In my experience, anti-science reasoning uses different languages. HuckleB Feb 2015 #6
I think there's an enormous difference in how often you find it on the two sides. Marr Feb 2015 #8
Data matters. HuckleB Feb 2015 #9
It sounds to me like you want to say something without actually saying it. Marr Feb 2015 #10
Did you read the OP at all? HuckleB Feb 2015 #12
Why are you being so combative? Marr Feb 2015 #37
You could use a mirror. HuckleB Feb 2015 #39
You want data edhopper Feb 2015 #25
So you want to cherry pick your data. HuckleB Feb 2015 #27
You have only presented this one article edhopper Feb 2015 #29
So you never bothered to read the full article with it's links. HuckleB Feb 2015 #33
A large majority of liberals deny the science behind GMOs. former9thward Feb 2015 #42
That may be true. Marr Feb 2015 #44
I am bookmarking to read later, but I suspect there is false equivalency here. stevenleser Feb 2015 #5
It's good to challenge one's suspicions. HuckleB Feb 2015 #7
"....this skepticism seems to be stronger among conservatives than liberals." Sheepshank Feb 2015 #11
And how is it that a be all, end all for you? HuckleB Feb 2015 #13
My quote comes from your own OP Sheepshank Feb 2015 #14
So, you think cherry picking words is legitimate? HuckleB Feb 2015 #15
isn't that exactly what your are doing? Sheepshank Feb 2015 #17
So, challenging yourself is really hard for you to do. HuckleB Feb 2015 #19
so pony up and tell me the purpose of your continued diatribe Sheepshank Feb 2015 #23
The OP spells it out quite clearly. HuckleB Feb 2015 #24
I agree edhopper Feb 2015 #18
Well, the author of the piece is very liberal and science minded. HuckleB Feb 2015 #20
Wait edhopper Feb 2015 #22
You seem to be trying to not make sense. HuckleB Feb 2015 #26
I read it edhopper Feb 2015 #28
Does this mean you question yourself more than others? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #16
I haven't noted that tendency with you, at all. HuckleB Feb 2015 #21
You were the one who brought up questioning oneself and when I ask you about it you attack me. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #31
Oh brother. HuckleB Feb 2015 #40
Which of us is having more influence here? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #43
Who funded the science used in each area of this study? The article says libs rejected science on peacebird Feb 2015 #30
Liberal skepticism isn't irrational. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #32
That is a bias right there. MicaelS Feb 2015 #34
Is experience derived from decades of observation irrational? YMMV lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #38
Exactly. HuckleB Feb 2015 #41
Good science and general faith in it results from discussions. Real discussions. GreatGazoo Feb 2015 #35
I'll always be a raw scientist first. hunter Feb 2015 #36
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