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raouldukelives

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79. The people who support what you describe. The people who fund it & labor for it.

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 09:14 AM

Mar 2015

Who make the corporations that buy off our politicians and democracy richer, are the only people to truly blame.
The only thing standing between us and democracy is corporate money.

I don't blame the unregistered homeless person. I don't blame independent activists. I don't blame disgruntled abstainers.
I blame the ones who make the people making things worse wealthier. Like slavery. I wouldn't blame those who didn't own slaves or profit from it. I blame the ones who did. No matter how they voted. It dwarfed politics.

It is about survival. On that we agree. Not just for us but for most of the planets inhabitants. It dwarfs not just our USA experiment, but all experiments since our time began. The only people we need to be disloyal towards are the ones disloyal to us, to our shared democracy and to our shared planet.

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I'm disgusted by Democratic disloyalty doing the Koch Brother's job for them [View all] maxrandb Feb 2015 OP

+1000000000000000 randys1 Feb 2015 #1

I'm so happy.. sendero Feb 2015 #2

And I'm very unhappy maxrandb Feb 2015 #4

The marginal benefit.. sendero Feb 2015 #5

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #9

+1000000000000 maxrandb Feb 2015 #13

I have no idea why that above post was hidden. Who considered that over the top? nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #81

I was wondering the same thing, Steven. There was nothing wrong with that post. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #90

I have no idea either Andy823 Mar 2015 #105

Agree.. I have no idea what was so bad about... one_voice Mar 2015 #120

Me either. tazkcmo Mar 2015 #129

I was just thinking the same thing! Nowhere near a personal attack and a very honest Number23 Mar 2015 #138

I agree! n/t fredamae Feb 2015 #26

+ 100000. Well Stated misterhighwasted Feb 2015 #36

exactly MFM008 Feb 2015 #57

bernie sanders isn't even a democrat, for god's sake, and patrick leahy isn't a 3rd way ND-Dem Feb 2015 #30

No kidding maxrandb Feb 2015 #56

You "get it". Thanks for the post. I am with you. misterhighwasted Feb 2015 #35

So who are the few not owned by the one percent? brush Mar 2015 #82

A lot of those people.. padfun Feb 2015 #3

I don't believe in loyalty above all else. alarimer Feb 2015 #6

I'm disgusted by LWolf Feb 2015 #7

I'm disgusted by people who think criticism of the Dem RIght is disloyal to the entire party HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #8

That, too. nt LWolf Feb 2015 #12

And I've said before maxrandb Feb 2015 #20

that's a great bit of cherry-picking...I hope you can sustain that. HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #21

Sustain what? maxrandb Feb 2015 #22

It's also a non-sequitur. My comment was about generalizing authentic criticism HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #23

+100 ND-Dem Feb 2015 #32

Senator Landreau? Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #74

You're joking, right? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #109

Yep. A lot of good it did to elect them "for the sake of the big picture". nt GoneFishin Mar 2015 #113

agreed G_j Mar 2015 #121

There sure is a lot of people applying to be kommissar. jeff47 Feb 2015 #10

Your post would ring true maxrandb Feb 2015 #17

It's compromising with evil. jeff47 Feb 2015 #24

You sound like a T-bagger maxrandb Feb 2015 #58

Yes and we all see how unsuccessful Teabaggers have been with no compromise. They don't control Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #71

And THAT is the Bigger Picture of why this 2016 election is at the critical tipping point. misterhighwasted Feb 2015 #38

Bullshit. obxhead Mar 2015 #115

There is no loyalty oath one must take when joining the Democratic party dissentient Feb 2015 #11

Are then majorty of democratic voters are formally party members?? HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #15

No maxrandb Feb 2015 #16

It's not that way round treestar Feb 2015 #28

The message of Aerows Mar 2015 #98

This group of voters is so small and irrelevant that they really aren't even worth your rant. tritsofme Feb 2015 #14

Then why worry about us? Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #72

Becuase they'll cost us the election! Marr Mar 2015 #87

Me to we can do it Feb 2015 #18

Well, how is the Tea Party agenda even on the table? Broward Feb 2015 #19

It is continuous and purposeful process. In a few years they will be selling a multicultural, TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #34

Because Democrats didn't vote in 2010, Republicans were able to gerrymander states Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #103

Wouldn't exposing fractures in the Democratic Party be doing the job of the Koch Brothers? daredtowork Feb 2015 #25

fucking retards, right? Enrique Feb 2015 #27

A random thought from a Democrat in bed with a cold George Osborne Feb 2015 #29

Welcome to the DU George. icymist Feb 2015 #37

Hope you feel better. William769 Feb 2015 #41

Just what do you think I am peddling? George Osborne Feb 2015 #45

Well it will be your loss. William769 Feb 2015 #47

My Loss? George Osborne Feb 2015 #50

Our loss. truebluegreen Mar 2015 #60

What's George peddling? frankfacts Mar 2015 #94

Cold hard facts. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #110

Welcome to DU malokvale77 Feb 2015 #43

Not rambling, such a good post. And you did it with a bad cold! RiverLover Mar 2015 #67

You're right about Russia and WWII. DanTex Mar 2015 #68

Makes sense. Get better soon and welcome from a fellow new guy! frankfacts Mar 2015 #92

My grandpa was a huge war historian JonLP24 Mar 2015 #132

While everyone bashes today's Greeks for being lazy profligates, the entire Western KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #140

I'm loyal to... 99Forever Feb 2015 #31

People have to survive first; Tsiyu Feb 2015 #33

Kick & highly recommended. William769 Feb 2015 #39

Loyalty is earned by those who seek it, not something that people they "have" to have... cascadiance Feb 2015 #40

Very powerfully written. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #42

+1 LWolf Mar 2015 #99

+all. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #111

Strawman OP. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #44

Everyone is making up shit about DU these days. This OP is doing the Koch's work for them. arcane1 Feb 2015 #46

Are you a dog? Marr Feb 2015 #48

Best post in the thread. woo me with science Mar 2015 #119

Those who say, “both parties are the same” do not belong to the Democratic party. TexasProgresive Feb 2015 #49

I have to laugh truebluegreen Mar 2015 #61

They claim that the parties are the same for one reason TexasProgresive Mar 2015 #62

I've spoken with plenty of RWNJs and have never heard any of them say that. truebluegreen Mar 2015 #64

That's right, the ones I'm talking about are smarter than the RWNJs TexasProgresive Mar 2015 #65

Disloyalty? stone space Feb 2015 #51

amazing isn't it, for a "Democratic site, Democratic Underground". This is the same garbage that still_one Feb 2015 #52

I suspect that you are more correct than you even realize. blue neen Feb 2015 #53

The irony of using the Kochs is amusing Oilwellian Feb 2015 #54

Thank you.^ RiverLover Mar 2015 #63

+1 Marr Mar 2015 #88

"Love it or Leave it?" Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #55

seig heil, komrade AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #59

And I'm disgusted by the Koch and Wall Street-backed "Democrats" in our party ... Scuba Mar 2015 #66

Just amazing to see fascism at work in both parties. I no longer doubt the country will be Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #70

Mindless voters is what the oligarchy wants. L0oniX Mar 2015 #86

As a Loyalty Officer for the Glorious Peoples Democratic Party, you must strive harder Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #69

I'm disgusted by anyone that says I need to march in lockstep. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #73

Yup its about survival madokie Mar 2015 #75

It's about Winning Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #76

The Koch brothers donated to the DLC and served on the DLC's Executive Council. merrily Mar 2015 #77

^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX Mar 2015 #84

Absolutely... MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #125

I think people are just plain giving up on the divided political system. While I too identify with mother earth Mar 2015 #78

Some are giving up because of gridlock (which doesn't bother conservatives very much) due to an merrily Mar 2015 #89

I understand what you mean about imcumbency, but let's face facts. We are all waking up to the mother earth Mar 2015 #106

You are preaching to the choir. merrily Mar 2015 #107

Fair enough, I know, merrily, I know... mother earth Mar 2015 #108

The people who support what you describe. The people who fund it & labor for it. raouldukelives Mar 2015 #79

I'm disgusted by loyalty oaths. truebluegreen Mar 2015 #80

Everyone vote D. End of discussion ...no point in having a website other than to agree to vote D. L0oniX Mar 2015 #83

propaganda BubbaFett Mar 2015 #85

Great post! Thank you for this righteous rant. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #91

I think we should just ask the Union members and progressives in WI maxrandb Mar 2015 #96

Ohio is rapidly being turned into a third world state. The amount of corruption from Kasich is huge greatlaurel Mar 2015 #100

Why didn't Strickland do anything to help stop Big Ag runoff and bad sewage pipes when he was Gov? RiverLover Mar 2015 #117

Thanks for the GOP talking points, they sound like something from Rob Portman's campaign greatlaurel Mar 2015 #139

Wow, I voted for Fitzgerald, straight Dem, made sure I had the right judges. RiverLover Mar 2015 #142

It is folks like you that insist on making that be the choice and it will require folks like you to TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #118

Yuck. HappyMe Mar 2015 #93

I wonder why it's exclusively clinton supporters who want them Scootaloo Mar 2015 #104

Seriously? Ever been in the BOG? NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #123

Not all Clinton supporters demand loaylty, but all loyalty-demanders seem to pull for Clinton Scootaloo Mar 2015 #124

I'm disgusted at the Pentagon's ownership of all broad media discourse frankfacts Mar 2015 #95

I will support our nominee. I detest puma people who say they won't support our nominee. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #97

Only 71% of Clinton supporters ended up voting for Obama. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #134

Cnn exit polls say 83 percent. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #135

Still that provides cover for those opposed to another Clinton administration AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #136

People can do what they please but I despised puma in 2008 and despise it now. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #137

Do you have in your hand a list of two hundred and five Disloyalist DU'ers? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #101

What is this 'disloyalty' you speak of..... daleanime Mar 2015 #102

They never give examples. arcane1 Mar 2015 #126

Amen.... daleanime Mar 2015 #131

I'm ashamed of Democrats, even moderate centrist Democrats obxhead Mar 2015 #112

Blind obedience Aerows Mar 2015 #114

Say "Supreme Court" again. Iggo Mar 2015 #116

BS. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #122

Oh goody, another "Be a sheep or else" thread Android3.14 Mar 2015 #127

blah blah blah blah blah. It's people like you who put us in this position. bowens43 Mar 2015 #128

You're surviving in slow motion. What about the survival of your kids and grandkids? Bonobo Mar 2015 #130

There must be opposition, else there is just a one party nation. madfloridian Mar 2015 #133

Disloyalists. LMFAO. Give me a fucking break. nt RedCappedBandit Mar 2015 #141

All that is required for evil to prevail maxrandb Mar 2015 #143

Thanks for the excellent rant, maxrandb. freshwest Mar 2015 #144