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In reply to the discussion: I'm disgusted by Democratic disloyalty doing the Koch Brother's job for them [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)change those options other than continuously for the worse.
I think you guys are fairly dug in on this, it is unfortunate that this stubbornness has and will generate so much pain but it must be confronted to help not just the people today but for generations.
Time for you and like minds to make a fucking choice, I suspect it will take 3 or 4 Presidential cycles before some will seriously consider what so many claim to actually want, I would see the crutch "relatively sane" taken away and burned, it is a distraction from what is needed instead of the slow motion die off of a surrender like a body starving to death promoted as "pragmatism".
Some want a diverse version of the Republicans, some want to be a less embarrassing and/or less potentially economically disruptive TEA party, some profoundly risk adverse seeing each surrender as potentially less costly than being beaten the idea of winning long gone from their minds, some hope that if we can just stall long enough some magic force will swing things the other way, some just want the "team" to win and hear this is the way to do it so fine (though curiously will rationalize all kinds of losses which makes me question the "just win baby" bonafides), some it almost seems can't really conceive of anything else.
There are all kinds of reasons and I don't give a damn about any of them because they are all excuses to do the wrong thing under the cover of the excuse that the other guy will do worse and that isn't an acceptable long term pattern and this has clearly a long term situation. It has to be broken otherwise there is no functional opposition to the right which is dominant and entrenched now all over, including our party.
Your choice is the right. You can fight it or you can join it if you think they are a better coalition for your aims but my votes and efforts won't be to facilitate your surrender to it (and it only adds to the insult when the claim is that it is for me).