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Wella

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18. I'd say it amounts to "vetted" opinions vs. "unvetted" opinions
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 08:18 PM
Mar 2015

I may disagree with a NYTimes writer, but I know what his/her background is, I know, in general, where to find the facts in the article, and I know that some vetting has been done of these facts. I also understand the paper's corporate bias.

Individual citizens, however, vary widely in their use of fact and vetting of it. I really have no place to start from and do not always understand their biases. Sometimes it's easy: an individual citizen can write about space aliens or fluoride in the water, for example, and I can rule them out. However, individual citizens can also write opinion pieces with little vetted fact supporting them or they can take facts from sources which distort them. Or, sometimes, individual citizens can be 100% correct and very credible.

In order to assess credibility, you have to look at the strategies a given individual employs. When an individual citizen cites a "witch hunt" piece of signage without a link and uses it as an exemplar of current rhetorical tone without providing evidence, credibility takes a hit.

To get an idea of a credible individual citizen post, take a look at this one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6295819

The poster builds an argument with credible sources. She is not simply venting her opinion and using an inflammatory historical poster to up the emotional ante. She has a definite perspective, but the facts to back it up.

I trust marym625 because I can trace her facts and because she builds her case well.

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The New "McCarthyism"... [View all] kentuck Mar 2015 OP
Please make sure people know the sign is from the 1950s; the rest is your opinion Wella Mar 2015 #1
What's the difference between his opinion and a third party's? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #3
My opinion is worthless... kentuck Mar 2015 #5
There is a difference if the opinion comes from a knowledgeable or trusted source Wella Mar 2015 #7
Just curious... kentuck Mar 2015 #9
Well, usually the New York Times, although they can get it wrong sometimes Wella Mar 2015 #10
I don't know why I waste my time here. kentuck Mar 2015 #12
In what way are you wasting your time? Wella Mar 2015 #15
Corporate opinions are worth more than individual citizens' opinions? kentuck Mar 2015 #17
I'd say it amounts to "vetted" opinions vs. "unvetted" opinions Wella Mar 2015 #18
Anyone who doesn't know when that poster is from marym625 Mar 2015 #6
Some of the younger folks might not get it. Wella Mar 2015 #8
Do you really think that, marym625 Mar 2015 #11
They'll know about McCarthy, but they might not connect it to the signage, especially since there is Wella Mar 2015 #13
I don't think you're giving people here enough credit marym625 Mar 2015 #16
Fair enough. Then again, you do a very good post. Wella Mar 2015 #19
Thanks! marym625 Mar 2015 #21
Quite possible. Wella Mar 2015 #22
Thanks again! very nice of you. n/t marym625 Mar 2015 #24
Agreed. No idea zentrum Mar 2015 #31
I thought so. marym625 Mar 2015 #32
Please note... ms liberty Mar 2015 #26
k&r... spanone Mar 2015 #2
If you are a liberal, a woman, a minority, marym625 Mar 2015 #4
Remember these folks are the Tea Party, remember that name because this cult wants you to forget. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #14
Teaparty are very scared and angry white people who will cling to anything that also hates randys1 Mar 2015 #25
I feel a lot of déjà vu in all of this! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #20
Anyone who reads that poster, if they aren't old enough to know what Reds are, let alone Reds in the libdem4life Mar 2015 #23
Sorry...dupe.. KoKo Mar 2015 #27
REC, be it for the good opinion or the resulting comedy! nt edgineered Mar 2015 #28
Essentially they want to eliminate all social and regulatory advances made in the 20th century. Kablooie Mar 2015 #29
I disagree obxhead Mar 2015 #30
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