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In reply to the discussion: A thread in support of ousting Third Wayer Rahm Emanuel [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)104. On the one hand, it's no surprise who feels most like voting does not matter. On the other hand,
wealthy white people who are old enough to have attained a degree of power and influence least need to vote because they'll do fine no matter who wins, which was the plan.
Influence on Bill Clinton
In his freshman year in the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown, future U.S. President Bill Clinton took Quigley's course, receiving a 'B' as his final grade in both semesters (an excellent grade in a course where nearly half the students received D or lower).[2]: 94, 96
Clinton named Quigley as an important influence on his aspirations and political philosophy in 1991, when launching his presidential campaign in a speech at Georgetown.[2]: 96 He also mentioned Quigley again during his acceptance speech to the 1992 Democratic National Convention, as follows:
As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy's summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown, I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest Nation in history because our people had always believed in two thingsthat tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley
Don't stop thinking about tomorrow, indeed.
wiki makes a lot of Quigley's fascination with secret societies. However, I found his own work, Tragedy and Hope, a lot more instructive. That, together with Quigley's influence on the President most closely associated with Third Way and triangulation. For those who are not familiar, but interested, excerpts are available on youtube. (The background music tends to be distracting to me, so I muted and read.)
The gist of the excerpts is that having political parties be very similar works best for financial markets because changes in administrations don't rock Wall Street and Wall Street doesn't react well to being rocked. Well, not his exact words. That's just my three penny summary.
Whether there is a secret global elite or whether the same things tend to be good for rich people around the world is much less fascinating to me than the message of Tragedy and Hope. '
The existence of Bohemian Grove was not a conspiracy theory. Whether it was also literally a secret society or not may have interested rich Ivy League frat boys of its heyday a lot more than it interests me. Ditto the Bilderburg Group, the Carlyle Group, ALEC, etc. We know they exist. We know they have common interests. We know they have money and power and therefore influence on governments, usually to the detriment of the 99% (though, in some nations, 56 cents an hour and OSHA is a big step up). Whether they also have a secret handshake is irrelevant to me.
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Rahm isn't a "third-wayer". He's a Republican in Democratic clothing. Period. eom
BlueCaliDem
Mar 2015
#1
"a mindset that stated that the traditional championing of the labor/working class base was
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#81
Ike was a business republican and he was better than third wayers. Didn't want to ship jobs
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#80
Eisenhower and Nixon need to be viewed in the context of FDR's massive victories and
merrily
Mar 2015
#102
like i said; that may well be, but the republicans of the time had to talk democratic, and
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#103
On the one hand, it's no surprise who feels most like voting does not matter. On the other hand,
merrily
Mar 2015
#104
Knocked it out of the park and rang a church bell with it a 100 miles away!
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#84
That is probably a good definition. In Arkansas we went from conservative Democrats to
LiberalArkie
Mar 2015
#118
Especially in California. Republicans run as Democrats but vote consistently Republican in the House
BlueCaliDem
Mar 2015
#122
I wonder who is behind this Chicago Gang. I know Penny Pritzker is involved, but
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#7
A Chicago thing. +big donor Penny Pritzker of Hilton (& Superior Bank), Wall St., Rubin et al.
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#51
more of a ferret than an ordinary weasel, note the dark mask around the eyes
HereSince1628
Mar 2015
#14
ferrets don't brag about fucking over their own core voters after we elect them, so
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#41
Feigning ignorance about conservatives running for office, I suppose that's a Third Way to do it.
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#97
Hey, if it's not in your backyard, leave it for the people who can buy it, no?
AllyCat
Mar 2015
#100
Ah, that alerter wasn't offended by the word, but by criticism of a 3rd wayer.
Divernan
Mar 2015
#114
This thread is more to support Chicago residents in kicking him out of office.
RiverLover
Mar 2015
#13
I'll support that every day of the week, all year long, every year, and twice on Sunday.
LWolf
Mar 2015
#34
Centrists claim it's simply pragmatic to call torture a noble expression of patriotism, after all
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#39
This is the Democratic Underground , We support Dem's Here What do you want Ted Cruz for Mayor?
bahrbearian
Mar 2015
#48
How about a thread supporting protection of the franchise. ...so the citizens of
msanthrope
Mar 2015
#50
How about a thread attacking elected Republicans for a change. Funny how the OP'er never does that.
KittyWampus
Mar 2015
#60
DLC - Third Way - Rahm Emanuel - Hillary Rodham Clinton - A Pox On Their Houses
cantbeserious
Mar 2015
#70
Currently the poll results are a dead heat, so naturally Rahm by a landslide.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#111
I don't believe Emanuel can be an effective mayor or other elected official........
RationalMan
Mar 2015
#132