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Jeremy Scahill: The United States Has Become A 'Nation of Assassins' With Drone Attacks [View all] Better Believe It Apr 2012 OP

But then we'd be allowing all those terrorists coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #1

Um, our democracy drones bring freedom quinnox Apr 2012 #2

"Democracy drones" is a bit like "liberty napalm" and "freedom bombs". Better Believe It Apr 2012 #4

indeed n/t quinnox Apr 2012 #5

They say marketing is everything, try to sell "kill a wedding party full of women and children" it Dragonfli May 2012 #112

One person's opinion. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #3

Then trot them out Autumn Apr 2012 #6

It is easier for you to find a firebrand willing to open his mouth, than bluestate10 May 2012 #144

Clearly, no actual good has come of the drones. Ken Burch May 2012 #84

Please trot them out. But they need to have the credentials Scahill has. Reports today from sabrina 1 May 2012 #124

Ditto, and why are we attacking Yemen, Somalia, the Philippines, American citizens? sad sally May 2012 #142

Another Obama Administration-bashing article from Better Believe It. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #7

another criticizing the messenger without commenting on the content nt msongs Apr 2012 #8

The messenger has an agenda. n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #9

Uh huh. blue neen Apr 2012 #10

There are plenty of places that welcome Obama-bashing during the general election season. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #12

We agree. blue neen Apr 2012 #17

Thanks! :D Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #34

So all those thousands of posts on against Bush's wars weren't sincere... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #23

I feel very badly about your dilemma. n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #26

I don't have a dilemma. There is a wide world wide web out there and there is Occupy. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #36

How do you think assisting the election of Mitt Romney is going to help your goals? n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #40

Got it. Protesting against war and drone warfare = assisting Romney. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #45

Nope - Posting Obama-bashing articles incessantly at a board committed to re-electing him Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #46

Democratic Underground is an arm of the Democratic Party? Luminous Animal May 2012 #48

And posting here will sway the Election too!!! neverforget May 2012 #52

Allow me to quote the Terms of Service that you have agreed to. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #53

Given that Romney hasn't critisized either Bush or Obama for their wars (that is, Romney Luminous Animal May 2012 #73

"I understand what you are saying." Clearly you do not. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #81

Oh, I do see. Too many ant-war posts = bashing Obama. It's okay to be little bit anti-war but Luminous Animal May 2012 #90

Please stop misrepresenting me. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #93

Fine, I'll repost the article whatchamacallit May 2012 #118

First. Obama is NOT the emperor of democrats. 2nd opposing policy decisions is our right got root May 2012 #68

Yup, and opposing *horrific* policy decisions is not just our right, woo me with science May 2012 #104

We don't have to be silent about the barbaric drone program to re-elect the prez Ken Burch May 2012 #86

Bravo! You have my respect for your beliefs, they show character and honesty. /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #94

Hear, hear. nt woo me with science May 2012 #107

They appear to be saying just that without even realizing it Dragonfli May 2012 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch May 2012 #96

You can't just say that ANY criticism is "bashing". Ken Burch May 2012 #82

No, I can't. And I don't. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #87

So basically you have it out for BBI and would try to get him banned (by slander if necessary) Dragonfli May 2012 #91

I have it out for the tactic of posting Obama-bashing threads incessantly here at DU. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #99

Sorry, it sounds personal to me, you should post on the content of the OP rather than Dragonfli May 2012 #106

How could it be personal? I don't know anything about BBI other than his or her tactics. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #114

How can it be personal? Dude, you are an admitted stalker of BBI that has said Dragonfli May 2012 #116

Is there any reason we should be made to be publicly silent about the drones? Ken Burch May 2012 #92

I have not advocated that you should be made to be publicly silent about the drones. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #100

Nothing BBI is doing is going to help Romney Ken Burch May 2012 #105

Take a look at another BBI thread down below, the religious belief one. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #119

Nailed it perfectly. nt Bobbie Jo May 2012 #171

Kudos Swede May 2012 #172

So what the message reveals doesn't matter, Autumn Apr 2012 #11

See Post #12. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #13

Yes the messenger does. Stop assassinating people around the world. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #14

I invite you to read the Terms of Service you agreed to when signing up for an account. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #20

I think that comes in when Skinner says so, not when you say so. Autumn Apr 2012 #22

What do you say? Are both major party candidates clear or not? Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #29

I doesn't matter what I say. Skinner is the one who will announce that. Autumn May 2012 #130

nowhere in the TOS does it say we must support all policies of the Obama administration quinnox Apr 2012 #25

I don't believe I said that at all. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #31

So, advocating against the wars is anti-Obama. Got it. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #28

Obama ended the Iraq War. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #32

I am so glad we pulled out of Afghanistan and pulled back our freedom drones from other countries Dragonfli May 2012 #101

He ended it too late to matter Ken Burch May 2012 #102

It should never have been started. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #108

World War I and World War II ended immediately. So did our Civil War. Ken Burch May 2012 #110

It may have been because the Iraqis asked us to leave at the date they set with Bush Dragonfli May 2012 #115

You have an agenda. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #15

Yes, I do - the re-election of the Democratic candidate for president. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #16

You attack leftists.. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #24

It's attacking someone to point out they keep posting Obama-bashing articles here? Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #27

Just because you appear not to know the difference, the truth is not Obama Bashing, it is simply the Dragonfli Apr 2012 #39

And the truth is that Better Believe It again and again posts Obama-bashing articles here. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #41

He posts many articles that are true and embarrassing for our party, I will grant you that Dragonfli May 2012 #69

Bashing is not a real word, it is childish and rude, close to breaking the rules here Dragonfli May 2012 #76

"Bashing" is a word used in the Terms of Service. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #79

I am not as new as you, long ago they did not use such a childish term. Dragonfli May 2012 #83

Really? You signed up in 2004. I signed up in 2002. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #85

Good! then you remember that the teenage words are new in the TOS, that makes it easier to Dragonfli May 2012 #98

What is your plan to get Democrats elected and re-elected? blue neen Apr 2012 #30

they remind me of these guys got root May 2012 #47

As apposed to a series of posts that assume the worst of Obama, sounds good to me karynnj May 2012 #133

Yes, the same agenda we all had when it was a Bush doing it, some don't change their views with the Dragonfli Apr 2012 #38

How do you expect assisting the election of Mitt Romney will advance your stated goals? n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #42

Who is campaigning for Mitt Romney here? The discussion is about an issue, not who Dragonfli May 2012 #59

It's kind of interesing that you feel the need to tell us who BBI is supporting for POTUS. blue neen May 2012 #70

It has come up and I have a memory, so I felt I should enlighten those that are ignorant of the fact Dragonfli May 2012 #74

Undermining and bashing the Democrat candidate incessantly is the equivalent Bolo Boffin May 2012 #71

It is a simplistic childish view complete with childish words like "bashing". Reality is not so Dragonfli May 2012 #75

i don't think a campaign comercial will be enough got root Apr 2012 #18

It's a battle of words, the poster bearer cried. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #21

yeah, and what you brought to the table isn't enough to gloss over the crimes committed in our names got root Apr 2012 #35

So I'm attempting to gloss over the crimes committed in our names? Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #43

yes got root May 2012 #50

The Generals sat and the lines on the map , move from side to side. Dragonfli May 2012 #55

Who knows which is which and who is who? Bolo Boffin May 2012 #56

Does Skinner know you're out here harassing members of his web site? EFerrari May 2012 #60

If what you think I'm doing is harassing, why don't you let him know? Bolo Boffin May 2012 #66

Yes, you are discussing the poster and not the article. EFerrari May 2012 #134

llow a editorial critical of specific policies to stand on its own merit also. LanternWaste May 2012 #151

Over the even more "right" candidate, most assuredly, but I will not support needless death. Dragonfli May 2012 #64

Where have I asked you to support needless death? Bolo Boffin May 2012 #67

You're kidding right? The OP is about NOT supporting this shit, and you call it "bashing" Dragonfli May 2012 #72

No, I am not kidding. I have never asked you to support needless deaths. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #78

It may be wrong in other cases, but not in this OP, the only way to please you here Dragonfli May 2012 #80

Children Killed. Rescuers Killed. Hissyspit May 2012 #109

Imagine those numbers under a President McCain. n/t Bolo Boffin May 2012 #111

Imagine those numbers under a peace loving Democrat (try zero as the goal) /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #113

We don't have to imagine the numbers under Obama. They are real. morningfog May 2012 #126

Oh, I bet you can think of how much worse President McCain would have been. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #128

And you might actually be wrong. Although we'll never know. Hissyspit May 2012 #155

You think a President McCain body count would have been better than President Obama's? Bolo Boffin May 2012 #156

Obama's IS too high. That is the point. morningfog May 2012 #159

Too high compared to what? Bolo Boffin May 2012 #161

Too high compared to those who are innocent and should be alive. morningfog May 2012 #163

"Yes, war is hell." Bolo Boffin May 2012 #165

War is a racket. morningfog May 2012 #166

I'll be happy to discuss this with you further here. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #167

Brennan has no legitimacy after being caught in a lie about civilian dead in drone strikes. morningfog May 2012 #169

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #137

Maybe the U.S. ProSense Apr 2012 #19

Drone strike transparency pscot May 2012 #49

It wasn't ProSense May 2012 #51

doesn't really give a wit what other countries or people think got root May 2012 #61

. ProSense May 2012 #63

. got root May 2012 #65

Every major war in the last century has involved bombing cities bhikkhu Apr 2012 #33

it's murder, just the same, on a smaller scale got root Apr 2012 #37

We're at war with Yemen and Pakistan? gratuitous Apr 2012 #44

Families of drone victims probably think so. nt EFerrari May 2012 #62

don't forget, we've also launched drone attacks in the Philippines sad sally May 2012 #150

Absolutely gratuitous May 2012 #153

There's no way "freedom-leeching" drones and the control they have now and will continue to sad sally May 2012 #154

Du rec. Nt xchrom May 2012 #54

White House approves broader Yemen drone campaign neverforget May 2012 #57

Cowards and assassins with lousy aim..... DeSwiss May 2012 #58

wow! it's amazing how much better a thread can become by putting just a few people on ignore got root May 2012 #77

Do you always air your dirty laundry in public? lonestarnot May 2012 #95

no, but i do pass along tips on how to keep it clean got root May 2012 #122

So does MIRT... SidDithers May 2012 #162

IDGNDFDUFDBDFDFND randome May 2012 #123

Add me to your list. bluestate10 May 2012 #146

ha... you too! fascisthunter May 2012 #158

No problem. No doubt Obama will bring the assassins to justice along with their bosses. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #89

30,000 Drones, one coming to your neighborhood soon BetsysGhost May 2012 #97

Good luck trying to end these policies under a Republican President, all. nt patrice May 2012 #103

Well, we knew that, which is why we elected Democrats. sabrina 1 May 2012 #125

We have no chance of ending them under a Democratic one either. Not much difference here. morningfog May 2012 #127

We haven't had any luck ending it under a Democratic President Autumn May 2012 #138

Kick for Jeremy Scahill, he has done a great job reporting on the MIC and Blackwater! Dragonfli May 2012 #117

Is Jeremy Scahill running for office? Electric Monk May 2012 #120

Not as far as I know, what have you heard? I would support a truth seeking journalist for congress Dragonfli May 2012 #121

Stay home dems, stay home. JoePhilly May 2012 #129

You're off topic. Do you have an opinion on what is being discussed? Better Believe It May 2012 #131

I did share it. I'll expand. JoePhilly May 2012 #132

Do you wish to refute the article or not? So far you haven't. Better Believe It May 2012 #135

We use drones. Better that then sending in ground troops. JoePhilly May 2012 #139

Attacks to the right of him, attacks to the left!!! DeSwiss May 2012 #136

A few points ... JoePhilly May 2012 #140

Fortunately ant railing in the wilderness are unheard. bluestate10 May 2012 #148

Keep up the good work! Rex May 2012 #141

I can't believe that democrats and so-called progressives defend this shit.... mike_c May 2012 #143

I was ok with it when Bush did it and am ok now that Obama does it. bluestate10 May 2012 #149

Actually, since it is killing non-combatants and rescuers, they are quite probably war crimes. Hissyspit May 2012 #157

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2012 #145

We only kill people who *don't like* us. kenny blankenship May 2012 #147

Do you REALLY think this is anything NEW? Bake May 2012 #152

What's the alternative, Mr. Scahill? Daniel537 May 2012 #160

How about following the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Better Believe It May 2012 #164

Homeland != Fatherland.. Fumesucker May 2012 #168

So if an American goes overseas, joins al-Qaida and declares war against his country Daniel537 May 2012 #170

If an American becomes a Marxist and declares "war" against capitalism should they be murdured? Better Believe It May 2012 #173

If they also join a terrorist group outside the ability of US power to arrest and then Bolo Boffin May 2012 #174