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freshwest

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29. And I have video of O'Donnell proudly saying to Greenwald he's not a progressive, either.

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:36 AM

Mar 2015

O'Donnell said then he's a Socialist, because 'progressives' are evil, doncha know. But now he's going with conservative billionaire owned MSNBC for the bucks!

This is just tossing anything that the GOP Koch Libertarian M$M thinks will stick - the outrage du jour - just using Segretti's method. It's been working for 40 years, why stop now?

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MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell: Clinton Using Private Email ‘Stunning Breach of Security’ [View all] Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 OP

Did he say the same thing when Colin Powell did the same exact thing? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #1

Didn't your mama tell you that two wrongs don't make a right? n/t RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #11

My mother taught me right from wrong thank you. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #12

Two wrongs don't make a right iandhr Mar 2015 #85

first of all, she put information at risk. She used roguevalley Mar 2015 #14

Well if they were not encrypted then this story will get bigger. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #15

I feel that even if they were encrypted it won't roguevalley Mar 2015 #16

In tennis, they call these "unforced errors." Yet another political gift to Rethuglians. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #26

At the very least, it is an immunization for Scott Walker. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2015 #102

Excellent point. If nothin else, we lose using that issue to further weaken Walker. That wud be regrettable. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #104

Yikes BojackFan Mar 2015 #30

I don't think it has been confirmed by reputable reporting. Apparently, WashPo & NYT are still investigatin the story, so to be fair, we need to wait before passin final judgment. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #68

+1 They want us to have to swallow their scandals and support them anyway. Dems to Win Mar 2015 #33

Encryption requires specific set up on both ends of an email (for every recipient). KeepItReal Mar 2015 #118

It was stupid in the extreme & tees up the obvious argument that Hillary lacks judgment in security matters, showin she's not Presidential material. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #24

I'm guessing Hillary knows more about violations of privacy than you can even imagine. aquart Mar 2015 #56

That's an interesting "twist" (pun intended) to the security issue, though if Hillary offers that as a possible explanation, not sure that's going to fly with most people. Maybe; we'll see. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #66

Some people don't learn from their mistakes. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #82

That is not actually factual. You can use decryption technologies with public and private keys on still_one Mar 2015 #111

Sure, you can. Any proof that she did? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #113

That wasn't my point, you made a statement that using commercial email could not be secure. I was still_one Mar 2015 #114

And my point stands. It's not. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #116

Whatever still_one Mar 2015 #121

No, you can't. jeff47 Mar 2015 #126

I had a pretty close inside view with what happened with Sarah Palin's email hack... cascadiance Mar 2015 #71

Benghazi fadedrose Mar 2015 #100

Cyber security seems more problematic now than it did in the previous century. aquart Mar 2015 #22

Madeleine Albright did it too--and so did everyone in the Bush White House. MADem Mar 2015 #34

Where's the link for "everyone" you list? fadedrose Mar 2015 #98

I'd like to see that too. While the excuse "everyone does it" won't fly with a lot of people, it would lessen the damage that's already out there.... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #109

You were seriously unaware of that controversy? It was all over the media. MADem Mar 2015 #136

He didn't have his show then but it doesn't really matter brush Mar 2015 #62

In defense of Powell fadedrose Mar 2015 #97

Norwegian Blues stun easily. n/t Orsino Mar 2015 #129

I love him. marym625 Mar 2015 #2

No one could have predicted that using unsecure email as SoS could lead to controversy Fumesucker Mar 2015 #3

I suspect this will be the first of many... ram2008 Mar 2015 #4

Ya think? Yes, way overdue. We have a deep bench; plenty of qualified potential candidates who set a good example and demonstrate sound judgment. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #6

You can bet a huge part of the party was waiting for something like this ram2008 Mar 2015 #9

Good analogy ram. For too long, the Clintons have held members of the Democratic Party hostage. Some of 'em are still sufferin from Stockholm Syndrome. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #21

Bullfuckingshit. aquart Mar 2015 #27

I know--she belted him with a lamp (allegedly) but did no permanent harm. MADem Mar 2015 #35

A lamp? I think I would have liked a scar. On his forehead, perhaps. aquart Mar 2015 #38

I think there was a bit of swelling around the eye--a bit of pan stick covered it. MADem Mar 2015 #39

When is it ever justifiable to begin throwin objects at your spouse in response to some argument you're engaged in? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #73

Spousal abuse is almost always justified I guess. AngryAmish Mar 2015 #76

Because physical abuse of your spouse is totally okay! nt Bonobo Mar 2015 #54

No, it's not "OK" but in this instance I can see her POV and appreciate her frustration. MADem Mar 2015 #57

My spouse cheats on me I get to slap them around. AngryAmish Mar 2015 #77

Wow! So if the roles were reversed, you would appreciate & excuse Bill's visceral reaction of throwin a lamp at Hillary? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #79

If you mistake challenge and objection for "hectoring," you need to go do your homework. MADem Mar 2015 #134

Just prefer Dems not TELEGRAPH ultimate support 4 even the worst candidate as u say (agree w/ ur premise) so Hillary won't take our vote 4 granted & will move left on issues InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #80

Apparently, like the rule against government officials' use of personal email to conduct non-emergency govt business, there's an exception for Hillary. Didn't you get the memo? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #75

Holding someone to a rule NOT IN EXISTENCE till 2 years after she left her job? aquart Mar 2015 #107

She threw it at him, it missed. I fell in love with Hillary when I heard that. Autumn Mar 2015 #146

Hillary, once again, shows incredible lack of judgment - seems to be a pattern with her. Time for Elizabeth to step up. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #5

There are other candidates who are actually interested in running you know... Agschmid Mar 2015 #7

Yeah, because being a registered Republican as late as 1996 shows better judgment? MADem Mar 2015 #41

Hogwash. What a lynchmob DU has become. aquart Mar 2015 #42

Yep. RiverLover Mar 2015 #69

Disagree.... Adrahil Mar 2015 #143

... TDale313 Mar 2015 #8

Also... Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #13

I will say, I doubt she or her staff would put sensitive or classified TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #18

Do you really think Clinton is THAT stupid? PedXing Mar 2015 #28

+1. Just what the presumptive Democratic nominee needs -- more baggage. Dems to Win Mar 2015 #32

Try this: aquart Mar 2015 #40

Here you go--I hope everyone reads it. MADem Mar 2015 #43

THANK YOU! aquart Mar 2015 #45

Hey--that was a beaut of a find, and ALL CREDIT TO YOU! Talk about much ado about NADA!!! MADem Mar 2015 #50

I tired of O'Donnell ages ago. Bohunk68 Mar 2015 #67

The law was put into place to correct a problem, no? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #110

Actually, the personal email was considered government property, you'll notice. aquart Mar 2015 #119

Huh? "Lying little kid lies?" No one did any lying. You've not got the bubble. MADem Mar 2015 #132

That was about her stupid sniper lie or are you claiming she took fire after all? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #145

When ya got nada, change the subject! MADem Mar 2015 #150

Two years after she left office or not brush Mar 2015 #64

They can hammer all they want--it's not going to stick. MADem Mar 2015 #147

They're already starting brush Mar 2015 #155

MADem, do us all a solid and post this as an OP for all the henny-pennies. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #74

Sorry--I was out of pocket today with a bit of work to do. MADem Mar 2015 #133

Except... it was still a known problem long before the law. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #89

The archivist of the United States has NO problem with SECSTATE Clinton. MADem Mar 2015 #151

She was the BOSS. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #154

I LOVE Bob Cesca. He cuts through the RW-propaganda each and every time. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #91

this ought to be it's own OP. nt hopemountain Mar 2015 #130

There's more than one Fed reg in play here, and the other pertinent one was enacted in 2009 ARMYofONE Mar 2015 #148

The archivist of the United States disagrees with you, and he's the final arbiter, not you, not an MADem Mar 2015 #149

thank you, both hopemountain Mar 2015 #61

What I see is unmarked cash disappearing into pockets. aquart Mar 2015 #103

Arrogance, pride, hubris. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #86

Entitled and Faux pas Mar 2015 #10

Really? Above the law? You might want to check the link at post 43. MADem Mar 2015 #44

Sort of like jumping on the case of somebody Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #92

I find it rather sad that so many here at DU are not just willing, but EAGER, to MADem Mar 2015 #139

Several points. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #142

Cheney defied subpoenas. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #17

Let's be clear: You are quoting a parody NOT Hillary who NEVER said those stupid words. aquart Mar 2015 #46

I made it clear by calling it an SNL spoof. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #52

Cheney and his Bush buds planted misinformation in the NYT? aquart Mar 2015 #49

They thought they were above the law too. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #55

This is devastating. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #19

No it isn't. The wingnuts WANT it to be, but since they've done the very same thing, they have no MADem Mar 2015 #36

hyperbole much? still_one Mar 2015 #112

Nyet! Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #131

Yawn. Every email is hackable. There is no "secure" system. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #20

If you are the NSA perhaps Fumesucker Mar 2015 #23

The State Dept. is no paragon of security. Chelsea Manning leaked 250,000 U.S. diplomatic cables. SunSeeker Mar 2015 #31

Not by hacking. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #93

Exactly. KeepItReal Mar 2015 #120

Your email is hackable no matter what server you use. SunSeeker Mar 2015 #124

'She set up her own domain' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #125

What info do you have that she had some "random guy" set up her domain? SunSeeker Mar 2015 #128

But no Clinton emails. MADem Mar 2015 #152

And I have video of O'Donnell proudly saying to Greenwald he's not a progressive, either. freshwest Mar 2015 #29

The House Ethic Committtee will start their investigation on it immediately Iliyah Mar 2015 #25

I'll bet you a donut they live in a glass house on this particular issue. nt MADem Mar 2015 #37

Trying to blame this on lack of notice to Hillary and/or on her lawyers or staff is laughable and merrily Mar 2015 #47

Here's a comment on the NYT article on this: MBS Mar 2015 #48

See link at post 43. There was no "federal regulation" until two years after Clinton left State. nt MADem Mar 2015 #51

Even ordinary federal workers have very, very strict rules regarding use of email MBS Mar 2015 #59

The Secretary of State is not an "ordinary federal worker." Surely you realize this. MADem Mar 2015 #60

On the face of it, her decision to use a private email account simply makes no sense. MBS Mar 2015 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #81

That certainly wasn't my thought. MBS Mar 2015 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #99

I hope, in the last 24 hours, you've had a chance to see that this was bullshit, it was a NYT MADem Mar 2015 #138

And there ya go. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #94

But they don't. It's not privilege, it's fact. MADem Mar 2015 #137

Is that the paper that regularly printed Republican lies to talk us into war? aquart Mar 2015 #53

Yes, Judy Miller's NYT, and COMCAST's MSNBC....and they eat it up like the cat's cream. nt MADem Mar 2015 #58

I agree the NYT is guilty as charged, tho it was fed those lies by the Bush admin that stooped to a new level of corruption that caught people off-guard. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #70

This has more to do with Euphoria Mar 2015 #65

Rachel too! Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #72

They are all Comcast's paid liars. AngryAmish Mar 2015 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #83

Yes ur right-can't take a news person seriously 4 reportin news esply if it shows the chosen candidate ina negative light based on their exercise of extremely poor judgment. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #87

Had to stop watching Rachel. peace13 Mar 2015 #101

He's suspended from his sports show, you know. aquart Mar 2015 #105

He's back this week! Saw him last night! peace13 Mar 2015 #123

It appears that my theory is becoming a reality regarding MSNBC's reason for the lineup shakeup. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #84

Has anyone verified that she sent important state secrets using this email? DebJ Mar 2015 #88

She sent *ALL* her emails using the private account as Sec. of State KeepItReal Mar 2015 #95

That doesn't answer my question. DebJ Mar 2015 #115

Here's some insight KeepItReal Mar 2015 #117

A one day old story...gimme a break we won't know the truth for a couple of days sailfla Mar 2015 #90

If tru, it wud be shockingly stupid on Hillary's part. We shud know ina few days, but if we don't hear somethin soon, it's likely the news is NOT good... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #106

Her actions were careless at best. nt ladjf Mar 2015 #108

O’Donnell lost all credibility when he freaked out over Obama's prayer breakfast speech. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #122

Remain objective:..see poster... riversedge Mar 2015 #127

Maybe she was paranoid the CIA was spying on her. Rex Mar 2015 #135

Naw, she was just proving that she doesn't have to answer a phone call at 3 AM. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #140

Dear Mr. O'Donnell, How Does It Feel Being a Tool? McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #141

I am sick.. chillfactor Mar 2015 #153

Actually the stunning breach of security happened in 2010... Spazito Mar 2015 #156