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We are Democrats - All of Us [View all] NanceGreggs Mar 2015 OP

How about those of us dismissed as liberals. Centrists have labeled themselves that way. madfloridian Mar 2015 #1

Care to provide any links ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #9

Thank you, Nance. the dividers aren't helping anything. I've seen it with Senator Warren and Cha Mar 2015 #2

And anyone who speaks out on policy is considered a "divider". madfloridian Mar 2015 #8

Yes, because that's exactly what I said ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #44

Sorry but I can't agree. If you're a conservative Democrat you may as well be a Republican. Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #3

Thanks for making my point. NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #6

Same as whoever appointed you, I guess. Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #28

The Democratic Party ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #34

I'm well aware of it. Doesn't change my opinion that a conservative Democrat may as well be a Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #36

Well, according to you ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #47

Yup. Each party's positions are pretty clearly spelled out. Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #49

Yes, they are ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #54

What I pay attention to is how individual elected Democrats vote. Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #65

That's right, Nance. It's an old voter repression technique Capn Sunshine Mar 2015 #88

Ever notice how many self-identified "pragmatic/serious Democrats" here OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #99

Again ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #102

I believe in principles, not parties. OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #107

There is nothing "principled" ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #109

Are you claiming to know how I voted? OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #110

Yeah, I claimed to know how you voted. NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #111

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #113

I said ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #117

Not as big a stretch OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #122

Not getting into that argument again ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #127

Arithmetic, not English. OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #129

Kiriakou didn't whistle blow. ....he defended water boarding. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #103

you mention torture prosecutions hfojvt Mar 2015 #202

Says the person who joined 5 1/2 days ago Hekate Mar 2015 #198

As a long time voter of over 40 years who has been following politics since I was 15 Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #203

5 1/2 days? Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #211

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Mar 2015 #62

It's called a difference of Opinion Joe Turner Mar 2015 #90

Do you recognize the difference between ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #94

Big Plus 1!!! RiverLover Mar 2015 #14

Thanks! Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #29

Welcome back! zappaman Mar 2015 #32

. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #83

whoopsie Hekate Mar 2015 #199

yep. Phlem Mar 2015 #72

Yeah, right--so when we need one more vote to get us the law we need, we tell that MADem Mar 2015 #136

people like Manchin usually vote with the other Democrats steve2470 Mar 2015 #140

Conservative Dems count as Dems in determining which party controls the Senate or House, amandabeech Mar 2015 #219

Hi Shellanagig... I was going to respond that I agree with the OP about .01% of the time ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #157

Hi ScreamingMeemie and thank you for saying that. Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #185

Parliamentary democracy demands it Cary Mar 2015 #4

Hey Cary.. Aloha! Cha Mar 2015 #10

Hey Cha Cary Mar 2015 #151

Nah, we just had our own kind of rain.. we're good. Cha Mar 2015 #153

Maybe because it works rpannier Mar 2015 #61

Yes, they seem to do quite well, and once they have power mountain grammy Mar 2015 #85

I used to think they'd implode, but they still keep going rpannier Mar 2015 #104

Poor Democrats. There we were in the 60's and 70's mountain grammy Mar 2015 #162

Nonsense Cary Mar 2015 #173

Our message isn't our problem Cary Mar 2015 #152

The other "discipline" they have, that we don't have, is... Cary Mar 2015 #172

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #5

Reading between the lines here - LiberalElite Mar 2015 #7

And another one weighs in ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #11

Another what, Nance? Another liberal? madfloridian Mar 2015 #16

No, another poster ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #19

Disagree very much. Most do not dismiss those who disagree. We ask to be respected. madfloridian Mar 2015 #22

Who is "we"? n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #35

Think about it. madfloridian Mar 2015 #38

I asked a question ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #48

Nance, you know the answers to all your questions. madfloridian Mar 2015 #53

That's a very nice non-answer. n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #55

A good lawyer never asks a question they don't already know the answer to Fumesucker Mar 2015 #57

I'm not a lawyer ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #63

The problem with having only two political parties is it shoves a lot of disparate views together Fumesucker Mar 2015 #67

A two-party system is what we have ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #68

The Democrats *are* divided, it can't be any other way.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #71

This thread is super sad and super telling. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #156

And this is not divisive? Change has come Mar 2015 #21

Oh, my, yes ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #40

Sorry, your "reading between the lines" lacks comprehension. Nance means exactly what she wrote. Cha Mar 2015 #12

and for clarification Capn Sunshine Mar 2015 #89

Exactly, Capn Sunshine~ Cha Mar 2015 #91

:) Capn Sunshine Mar 2015 #112

Well said.. it's obvious.. bugging me way before Nance wrote the OP. Cha Mar 2015 #116

www.thirdway.org WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #190

Exactly. We're all equal, except some are more equal than others :) whereisjustice Mar 2015 #95

What you just said is that anyone who doesn't see things YOUR way is a MADem Mar 2015 #137

No. That's not what I said LiberalElite Mar 2015 #141

I am "far left" these days because I'm an FDR Dem & believe in living wage & regulated industry... RiverLover Mar 2015 #13

Congratulations!!! NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #17

+1... one_voice Mar 2015 #25

The media and "centrists" consider my beliefs far left and it used to be mainstream Dem RiverLover Mar 2015 #27

Well Stated WiffenPoof Mar 2015 #30

..... madfloridian Mar 2015 #39

Funny that. NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #42

So ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #51

Yep fredamae Mar 2015 #52

Absolutely. 99Forever Mar 2015 #145

BEAUTIFUL. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #159

Spot on! MissDeeds Mar 2015 #161

Well said. You should post that as an OP Autumn Mar 2015 #163

Brava! marym625 Mar 2015 #214

K & R, well said, it is a sad day when there is an attempt to intimidate someone for not agreeing Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #15

You are doing PRECISELY what you are accusing others of doing tkmorris Mar 2015 #18

How so? n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #23

Well, you are dividing the party. jeff47 Mar 2015 #43

Where did I say anything ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #60

This thread... wow. Number23 Mar 2015 #130

It's heavily implied by who you are attacking. jeff47 Mar 2015 #167

This has nothing to do with Hillary ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #183

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Mar 2015 #77

You're blurring together policy and tactics. And you're wrong on both. DanTex Mar 2015 #158

Tactics are how you get to implement policy. jeff47 Mar 2015 #170

I agree. Further reason why the anti-Hillary stuff is so dumb. DanTex Mar 2015 #176

To add one more thing. Since you agree that tactics are important, then surely DanTex Mar 2015 #179

Excellent Op, Nance. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #20

You would think stopping the Rethugs ftom taking over this country.. DCBob Mar 2015 #24

Too many elected Dems voted with the GOP instead of trying to stop them. madfloridian Mar 2015 #64

And then there were those New Jersey "Dems" Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #131

Blue Dogs have their challenges but that's a separate issue. DCBob Mar 2015 #142

No, it isn't. It is the issue. jeff47 Mar 2015 #171

Not the issue I was referring to.. but regarding blue dogs dragging us to the right... DCBob Mar 2015 #200

Only if we continue with politics as usual. jeff47 Mar 2015 #215

I would love to believe that but.. DCBob Mar 2015 #217

Yeah, that's why liberal referenda pass and conservative ones fail everywhere. jeff47 Mar 2015 #238

Yeah like coal regulations in West Virginia. DCBob Mar 2015 #239

mostly agree bigtree Mar 2015 #26

Thank you ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #31

We are a big tent here. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #33

K&R. n/t FSogol Mar 2015 #37

Pfft. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #41

Marta and I are in! Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #45

I don't think Leiberman or Zell Miller were ever democrats. langstonhues Mar 2015 #46

Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Mar 2015 #56

Joebituary supported McCain against Obama. langstonhues Mar 2015 #66

oh come now, all part of the 'big tent' we're supposed to glorify. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #133

Well. You've outdone yourself. nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #50

Can you please elaborate on the far leftists? I have never met a far leftist Democrat Dragonfli Mar 2015 #58

I think the self-identified ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #78

Who might they be? I have seen many pre-Will Marshall Democrats labeled as such Dragonfli Mar 2015 #93

Who you have met ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #98

You claim to have knowledge in your OP of far leftists within the party Dragonfli Mar 2015 #105

Oh, fer fuck's sake ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #108

Again, Democrats here are not identifying as far left, they are being identified as such Dragonfli Mar 2015 #115

I pointed you to ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #119

I am not far left, I am a Liberal. But I am stalked and called a "left leaning independent" by Autumn Mar 2015 #165

United, we stand....divided, we fall. Old and In the Way Mar 2015 #59

Now that it's settled, I can't wait for conservative Democrats to welcome liberals back into the whereisjustice Mar 2015 #69

My OP was about how we're NOT all the same ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #70

Both parties are controlled by conservatives whereisjustice Mar 2015 #81

We are Cells - All of Us OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #73

Well, Dr. OnyxCollie ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #82

Let's let the voters decide. OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #84

Some mets WERE removed! I would like to give the voters the ability to begin surgery on the primary Dragonfli Mar 2015 #97

I've voted straight Dem ticket LittleGirl Mar 2015 #74

How can you be fiscally conservative but far left on most issues? Economics is the lion's share of TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #184

Sorry but some of us are not going to get all kumbaya with the 1% to win elections. L0oniX Mar 2015 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author DocMac Mar 2015 #76

Who asked you to apologize ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #87

I am Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #79

So if I tell someone that the Democratic Party doesn't stand for what it used to stand for, Vattel Mar 2015 #80

Nance I respect you DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #86

I haven't seen anyone here ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #92

Let's keep moving further right. That way the tent can get bigger and bigger!!! n/t RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #96

Let's keep saying ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #100

oh jeese Capn Sunshine Mar 2015 #101

+100! soon the republicans will disappear altogether!! we'll BE them!! what a clever strategy! ND-Dem Mar 2015 #134

interesting considering I was told I was part of the problem marym625 Mar 2015 #106

what was the question again? Capn Sunshine Mar 2015 #114

Huh? n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #120

You recently wrote a post that was satire. marym625 Mar 2015 #143

Again, no response marym625 Mar 2015 #220

The fact that you think this OP ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #222

Yeah, nice excuse, Nance marym625 Mar 2015 #225

by the way marym625 Mar 2015 #227

More than 50% of the people on this thread are here for the argument? TerrapinFlyer Mar 2015 #118

Yes, they are. NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #121

No, they aren't. TerrapinFlyer Mar 2015 #123

Yes, they are. NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #124

No they aren't. TerrapinFlyer Mar 2015 #126

Self-inflicted wounds are a DU trademark. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #125

Only reason I click on her OP's Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #148

Perfect!!! JoePhilly Mar 2015 #178

Sad when an Democratic Solidarity Post gets so few recs. Must be a lot of McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #128

"The Democratic Party stands for what it has always stood for"? Ken Burch Mar 2015 #132

Me too!!! MADem Mar 2015 #135

"If you�ve been labelled a Third Wayer, a ConservaDem, a DINO ..." Scuba Mar 2015 #138

I have never called anyone a "leftie loonie". NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #207

"The Democratic Party stands for what it has always stood for" eridani Mar 2015 #139

<crickets> n/t eridani Mar 2015 #221

Bravo! I can't add anything to this but I'll quote The Magistrate wyldwolf Mar 2015 #144

Kick & highly recommended. William769 Mar 2015 #146

If "Our common goals'... catnhatnh Mar 2015 #147

I agree. Everyone is a different kind of Democrat. bigwillq Mar 2015 #149

Thanks! Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #150

We are all Democrats...so, when we get angry at seeing our party throw away ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #154

Great post. RiverLover Mar 2015 #244

No, it is not our common goal enrich the wealthy at the expense of workers. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #155

Awesome, Outstanding post!!!!! RiverLover Mar 2015 #160

+1000000 MissDeeds Mar 2015 #164

Now here is another reply that should be a stand alone OP Autumn Mar 2015 #166

Yes to this. HughBeaumont Mar 2015 #168

Should be an OP, if not a college course. Octafish Mar 2015 #181

Well, here is the OP. The course will take longer and thanks TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #186

No whitewash and 'look forward' and cover for torturing, murdering, destroying criminals. Octafish Mar 2015 #189

Geez, *another* member of the Itty Bitty Hissyfit Committee. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #194

Good God in Heaven, how did I miss that? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #240

Yeah, that's definitely one of DU's banner threads. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #241

Great Post!!! One of the 99 Mar 2015 #169

We can all get along together if we shut the hell up and think the way Nance says to think. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #174

I'm gonna need a lot more Beausoir Mar 2015 #175

I like the way you think. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #180

What Nance thinks ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #188

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #216

+100 JoePhilly Mar 2015 #177

As always, an excellent post, Nance, but lost on those who can't see the bigger picture BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #182

As Chairman Mao once put it, "The people must speak freely and the reactionaries must be silenced." Douglas Carpenter Mar 2015 #187

vapid Vattel Mar 2015 #191

The attacks on this thread are ridiculous. zappaman Mar 2015 #192

Yet it seems to be the Third Way/DINOs, etc. daredtowork Mar 2015 #193

Things slow over at Democrats for Progress? SMC22307 Mar 2015 #195

Thanks for serving up a straw man so promptly. nt Hekate Mar 2015 #196

"Economic Populism Is a Dead End for Democrats" SMC22307 Mar 2015 #201

Actually, no, they're not. NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #205

I think Third Wayers are getting old & tiresome~ RiverLover Mar 2015 #206

I think that calling anyone who disagrees with you ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #209

Just in time, *fresh* ideas from the New Democrat Coalition! WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #213

It's really good to have you back, Nance. So many posters are jumping right in to prove your point! Hekate Mar 2015 #197

Thanks, Hekate ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #204

When did "firebagger," "emoprog," "emotarian," poutragers"... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #212

! nt grasswire Mar 2015 #228

+1 Marr Mar 2015 #235

Very well done. Rex Mar 2015 #208

And I thank you for saying so. n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #210

Nance, you have good intentions but you are sadly mistaken. Martin Eden Mar 2015 #218

The OP was not abut Hillary ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #223

I quoted you directly about "divide and conquer" Martin Eden Mar 2015 #237

Think about it. NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #242

Thank you for that long and thoughtful post Martin Eden Mar 2015 #243

And now it is my turn ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #246

Bra-Fucking-Vo! Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #245

You should be directing this at Hillary fans and other "moderates". Marr Mar 2015 #224

And here we go again, folks. NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #226

You're comparing a few posts on DU to actual elections. Marr Mar 2015 #230

Yeah, okay. Whatever. n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #231

It's true. No one says "Centrists" aren't welcome to vote Democratic. Marr Mar 2015 #233

Self-desecribed moderates BainsBane Mar 2015 #234

Moderates would rather have a Republican president than compromise with liberals eom whereisjustice Mar 2015 #229

Yep-- and it's not surprising. They are, by definition, barely Democrats. Marr Mar 2015 #232

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