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dreamnightwind

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35. Yes it is sad

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:22 AM

Mar 2015

There are some troll problems, no doubt.

Funny thing, though, everyone sees trolls everywhere, and everyone has their own unique opinion of who the trolls are, depending largely on the ideology of the beholder.

Much of the discord here is based on people with different views of idealism vs pragmatism, populism vs corporatism, identity politics vs more generalized priorities, and where on the left-right spectrum we fall.

We could demonstrate this by naming trolls (please don't) right here in this thread, I think it would quickly become apparent that, other than a few exceptions, one person's troll is another person's ally.

But I get it, I have seen many of the posters I most admired leave this site for other pastures (wish I knew where, I am aware of OET and that is where some of my favorites went, also maybe Reddit? I don't hang out there so don't know)

This can be a pretty hostile environment, keeps me from posting much. I do learn a lot here by reading way too many OP's and threads, huge time-sink but at least some of it is educational.

Really not looking forward to this place leading up to 2016. For me reading all of the pro-Clinton posts and the coersion that she must be supported if she wins the primary is incredibly painful, I'm sure it works both ways. I wish we could discuss different viewpoints with humility and a spirit of group inquiry rather than so much ideological bullying.

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Has Anyone Noticed The Number Of Longtime/Newtime DUer's Leaving DU ??? [View all] WillyT Mar 2015 OP

agreed.... chillfactor Mar 2015 #1

Its not trolls that have ruined DU. Many have forgotten what "Democratic" Underground was meant demosincebirth Mar 2015 #8

like...seeking truth and not blindly cheerleading? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2015 #50

False choice treestar Mar 2015 #75

Seeking the truth means exactly what it says. FACING it appears to be very disturbing sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #137

...^ that 840high Mar 2015 #152

All of which was not the intent of DU. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #153

The truth was not the intent of DU? Then a lot of us have been seriously misled. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #155

I would have to say, what you think is "truth" is something others will not see that way treestar Mar 2015 #182

what does the Terms of Service say is the purpose of DU? CreekDog Mar 2015 #220

The TOS says we must not tell the truth? Where? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #221

Tell us what the Terms of Service says CreekDog Mar 2015 #223

I know what the TOS says and have never seen what you are claiming it says. So please post a link to sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #225

If you know what the TOS says, then why did you substitute what it says the purpose of DU is CreekDog Mar 2015 #242

If you know what the TOS says, why are you claiming it says 'DU is not about the truth'? Where does sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #295

MY truth, sarina. i see the battle in the supreme court. dont fix that arm, all YOUR truth matters seabeyond Mar 2015 #371

'Du is not about the truth. It is about electing Democrats'. That sounds like something I have sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #373

you created a bogus argument and that was my point. the very premise of what you argue, seabeyond Mar 2015 #374

I created nothing. I RESPONDED to a comment in this thread that said 'the truth is not the intent of sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #382

personally i think the poster should have called out your version of truth, seabeyond Mar 2015 #383

What was 'my version' of the truth that you should have 'called out'? Can you link to it? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #385

i stopped going in circles with you, long ago. seabeyond Mar 2015 #386

I believe you are the one who addressed me, stated that you should have called out sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #388

You and 2/3 of this board, sea. Number23 Mar 2015 #410

Only 2/3rds? I thought it was EVERYONE on DU? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #416

the point is, you feel addressing your issues is a truth, where as i see it as causing problems seabeyond Mar 2015 #375

What are my primary issues? I believe in talking about ISSUES rather than other DUers, that is sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #378

none of that really has anything to do with anything sabrina. but you can keep holding up a banner seabeyond Mar 2015 #381

I have no idea what it is you 'don't buy'. I have asked you link to what it is you chose to sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #395

You mean that truth was not your intent on DU? Jakes Progress Mar 2015 #162

My intent for DU was/is to discuss politics/political issues ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #282

So truth is personal? Jakes Progress Mar 2015 #319

I'm committed to electing more Democrats and fewer Republicans to office. merrily Mar 2015 #331

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #342

No, you and others have objected to a number of things. At least in the posts I've seen. merrily Mar 2015 #343

That is why most Democrats and Progressives are here. To discuss and learn. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #384

I don't care about the gop's truth ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #387

Well, we ALL cared about their version of the truth re the Iraq War. Had we not, sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #389

Sighhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #398

Well, we are arguing over two different things then. The topic was DU rather than the GOP sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #399

Well, behaving as poorly as Republicans when they're in office is a pathetic commentary... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2015 #323

What was the intent of DU? And exactly how is it being violated? merrily Mar 2015 #329

Home run, sabrina! hifiguy Mar 2015 #198

A simple truth..... daleanime Mar 2015 #205

One man's truth is another man's lie. nt one_voice Mar 2015 #214

Could you clarify that please? How eg, is it relevant to this conversation? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #215

What is "eg"? n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #276

E.g. stands for exempli gratia, Jakes Progress Mar 2015 #320

Yes, I know what "e.g." means ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #322

Your query was ignored because the purpose of it was clear. And no, you did not 'explain' it to me. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #376

I thought you would get a chuckle ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #419

From your post, Jakes Progress Mar 2015 #412

It was, ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #417

I just read your other post and did not remember that conversation or most likely sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #421

Well, you didn't at the time ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #422

Private? Jakes Progress Mar 2015 #437

I said it was a "private" joke between sabrina and I ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #438

Again. Jakes Progress Mar 2015 #439

After a nudge, sabrina "got" the joke ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #440

Why you think you are special Jakes Progress Mar 2015 #441

Again ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #445

Again Jakes Progress Apr 2015 #446

Just so you know, of course I knew the meaning. And no, the poster to whom you responded did not sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #377

Just you you know . . . I knew. Jakes Progress Mar 2015 #411

I thought you probably did, it was after all, pretty transparent. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #413

When it comes to the truth of why DU was founded, Skinner the only man who truth matters here. merrily Mar 2015 #332

What you're attempting to do is suggest that everyone who disagrees with you CreekDog Mar 2015 #243

Where does the TOS say DU is not about the truth? What you are doing is agreeing with the sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #300

BOOM. Hiding it, denying, altering it, seeking to exclude all views but one, etc. merrily Mar 2015 #333

+1 Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #415

Straw man. (As long as we're naming logical fallacies, that's a straw man.) merrily Mar 2015 #328

They certainly imply they can't work with others treestar Mar 2015 #335

Only in your mind. That is my reply to every sentence in your post. merrily Mar 2015 #337

No, I've read on DU many posts treestar Mar 2015 #339

Staying home has nothing to do with alliances, which is where you started. merrily Mar 2015 #341

Sounds Like That Tool Who Was on CSPAN WJ Sunday Before Last ProfessorGAC Mar 2015 #84

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #321

That's My Point ProfessorGAC Mar 2015 #347

The "people to my left are exactly like the people to my right" meme got older faster merrily Mar 2015 #340

Nice Try ProfessorGAC Mar 2015 #346

Now, you're implying that I personally am a homophobe. And I didn't think you could go lower than merrily Mar 2015 #348

I don't recall either being what DU was intended to be ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #151

You'd think, wouldn't you? But working within (and changing) the system seems anathema nolabear Mar 2015 #177

That's because that's exactly what they are. Number23 Mar 2015 #190

" ... it takes practically half the board screaming about it for YEARS before it happens." NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #283

Yesterday I commented how important the SC would be regarding the next election, and I was amazed still_one Mar 2015 #284

I agree completely. Number23 Mar 2015 #287

Are you really saying that 'electing Democrats' has nothing to do with the truth? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #301

What is "truth"? Clearly, one person's "truth" differs from another's ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #304

'What is the truth?' Give me an example of an issue that it would be okay for a politician to NOT sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #308

I agree with you, but some think it is intellectually sophisticated to deny the existence of truth. Vattel Mar 2015 #327

In politics there's no way to have an objective truth treestar Mar 2015 #338

No, they believed it was true, but it was false. They were mistaken. Vattel Mar 2015 #405

They didn't know it at the time treestar Mar 2015 #408

FYI: Your autocorrect hijacked your post and turned "prevent" into "provide." nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #443

Yes. it did. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #444

It also doesn't say in the TOS that Olive Garden is a terrible restaurant treestar Mar 2015 #336

I agree. Trolls have not ruined this place, unless you're referring to posters that are rigid Number23 Mar 2015 #185

I do think the locksteppers are a type of troll. betsuni Mar 2015 #212

The thing is, if these folks had their acts together, I have no doubt that everybody would be happy Number23 Mar 2015 #285

The safest place to be on a progressive board is to be as ideologically rigid as possible.,,, DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #222

You hit the nail on the head, give the man a cigar! demosincebirth Mar 2015 #306

No man am I... Number23 Mar 2015 #309

I think we'd get a better sense of what DU really thinks if it took six months and a 1000 posts, MADem Mar 2015 #29

That's a good idea eom treestar Mar 2015 #74

The whole jury system needs a second look... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #81

I certainly think if you're dumb enough to say something like that in your jury comment Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #109

I don't think ignoring someone keeps you off their juries pintobean Mar 2015 #116

Interesting. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #118

you can blackball 3 or so people from your juries, however. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #143

Everybody gets 5 pintobean Mar 2015 #147

I think both work fine: ND-Dem Mar 2015 #291

I've had a post hidden, where a juror wrote ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #159

I had one hidden for referring to Poroshenko of Ukraine as the 'Chocolate King', which is true. He sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #176

I've heard that 'DU suck' line a number of times now. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #204

The times I've seen it, it was from different screen-names ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #236

I think it came from one of the admins....it's in the DU TOS. MADem Mar 2015 #310

Not for nuttin', but we've had a number of discussions and you didn't bring up race in any of them. merrily Mar 2015 #403

that would be old-timers who don't like each other hfojvt Mar 2015 #128

That would depend on who those enemies are, wouldn't it? nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #219

it might hfojvt Mar 2015 #372

I've seen that happen in juries too. Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #244

Yes. You nailed it. I've seen that happen a few times. Pretty damn disgusting. BlueJazz Mar 2015 #288

That is a really awesome idea. nt TBF Mar 2015 #144

+ a brazillion!, nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #216

That's a good idea. I also think a reason for you decision should be.. one_voice Mar 2015 #226

I agree with that ... sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #390

I can't blame you. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #40

I think some posters are on watch lists or something. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #61

You might be right on that, possibly. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #174

Exactly. Andy823 Mar 2015 #267

Yep. That's why when I get called for jury duty, the person only has to worry about the ... BlueJazz Mar 2015 #289

good lord. cyberswede Mar 2015 #95

Just telling it like it really was. You know, since that was the *topic* of this OP. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #169

You unwillingness to understand is epic. cyberswede Mar 2015 #175

Wow. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #186

LOL. nt cyberswede Mar 2015 #196

Don't see what's so funny.....nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #197

I don't suppose you do. cyberswede Mar 2015 #199

So..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #200

Huh? cyberswede Mar 2015 #203

And don't forget the use of "SJW" - social justice warrior Number23 Mar 2015 #180

Yep. Amazing, isn't it? cyberswede Mar 2015 #183

I wondered what the hell SJW was. betsuni Mar 2015 #192

That's really not a bad thing. But it does say something about people who are "fluent" in it Number23 Mar 2015 #193

Some things never change, or I should say people. Keep up the good fight, cuz lord NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #227

With as many times out as he's had and as many people on his ass Number23 Mar 2015 #293

Using "SJW" as a pejorative always reminds me of the use tblue37 Mar 2015 #224

Yep. Just like "feminazi". Straight out of the boil on Rush Limbaugh's ass. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2015 #265

Exactly. And in all reality, it says all you need to know about the person making the "insult" Number23 Mar 2015 #286

Thank you for saying that, so I don't have to. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #294

Any time, but... cyberswede Mar 2015 #305

Heh. But no wall is THAT thick. betsuni Mar 2015 #315

QED XemaSab Mar 2015 #127

What I think of people who use "Social Justice Warrior" (SJW) as a pejorative. backscatter712 Mar 2015 #235

I'm sorry you felt that way. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #239

There was a big change after the jury system was introduced GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #59

Right. Back then nobody ever complained about inconsistent moderating (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #262

If they had, wouldn't this post have been hidden by now? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #261

Where are they going? oldandhappy Mar 2015 #2

Many go to Old Elm Tree TheNutcracker Mar 2015 #10

thanks oldandhappy Mar 2015 #11

That place still exists? Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #24

you don't have a login? snooper2 Mar 2015 #96

Aren't they always about to go under? pintobean Mar 2015 #99

No. I plead guilty to having one on "disgustingist", though. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #325

Wasn't that place formed because of the primary split in 2008? MADem Mar 2015 #30

Oh dear Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #67

... SidDithers Mar 2015 #88

what's so funny? G_j Mar 2015 #156

OET is a backwater of bitter former DUers... SidDithers Mar 2015 #158

Bitter Old Tree NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #317

Oh, I thought you literally meant an old elm tree. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #91

I like it! treestar Mar 2015 #92

They won't let me join, claiming I'm a known spammer. I've been on MIRT here several times an I.... marble falls Mar 2015 #145

The only changes I would make is: a six months membership and 500 post minimum to be on a jury .... marble falls Mar 2015 #170

That place has been a cemetary for years. Number23 Mar 2015 #181

I occasionally read them and they do seem like a happy group even though it is small. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #184

Couldnt we all? Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #326

Only some do. Skidmore Mar 2015 #209

Find other things to do, maybe. Quantess Mar 2015 #44

Depends to an extent where you live and who inhabits "meatspace" with you Fumesucker Mar 2015 #334

Try this one. Autumn Mar 2015 #228

Thank you. Lots. oldandhappy Mar 2015 #231

My dear WillyT... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #3

evolving is fine... chillfactor Mar 2015 #6

I agree! This is why we on MIRT work around the clock to rid DU of freepers. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #9

Amen! chillfactor Mar 2015 #16

You must do damn fine work too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #112

Must be some tough work. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #211

+1 n/t jaysunb Mar 2015 #7

Maybe we should do that "zot" thing or whatever the Freepers do to keep libs out of FR? Peregrine Took Mar 2015 #4

who now? grasswire Mar 2015 #5

I would like to know too n/t Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #33

Me too. old guy Mar 2015 #72

DU's only purpose is revenue generation through ads Scootaloo Mar 2015 #12

Hmmm. So the admins sleep in cots beside the servers? MADem Mar 2015 #31

It's all a plot! A disgusting discussionist plot! Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #46

The jury system is very troll friendly geek tragedy Mar 2015 #13

I agree Renew Deal Mar 2015 #14

Absolutely. eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #108

It doesn't take a troll to hide a post that says "you are full of shit". Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #264

The jury got that one incorrect. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #290

Not everyone who disagree with you is a troll. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #361

I am sorry to see many good people not posting anymore or posting less. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #15

I am also sorry to see that... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #17

I guess some of the recent political battles has caused problems. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #18

I think a lot of people have gotten tired of the incessant half-witted bs and agenda-driven axe grinding. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #47

I agree with that completely Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #51

+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #63

That is so perfectly said Waiting For Everyman Mar 2015 #78

This is likely why we lost some. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #97

Wow pintobean Mar 2015 #100

Ok what is you complaint? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #101

You seem to be the target of choice this week. UtahLib Mar 2015 #134

Thanks my friend. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #135

Sounds about right.. whathehell Mar 2015 #167

Yep. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #316

Give people topics that create general and earnest discussion, and not tit for tat nonsense, KMOD Mar 2015 #19

It's ok. I'm back through November 2016. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #20

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #21

The wrecking crew. betsuni Mar 2015 #22

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #37

DU must be a resounding success HeiressofBickworth Mar 2015 #23

I agree a thousand percent. n/t inanna Mar 2015 #25

+ another Scuba Mar 2015 #27

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #26

Those whose minds are changes by random internet posts gelsdorf Mar 2015 #28

That sort of calls into question what we're all doing here FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #433

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #32

I love to post e-cigdub Mar 2015 #34

Welcome to DU. cwydro Mar 2015 #39

Welcome to DU yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #43

keep posting and the low count goes away treestar Mar 2015 #77

Well, you already have a strike against you with e-cig in the handle snooper2 Mar 2015 #98

E-cigs will kill the world e-cigdub Mar 2015 #160

Welcome to DU e-cigdub Oilwellian Mar 2015 #179

Welcome to DU stage left Mar 2015 #136

welcome to Du guillaumeb Mar 2015 #154

Welcome to the Democratic Underground e-cigdub!! CountAllVotes Mar 2015 #307

Yes it is sad dreamnightwind Mar 2015 #35

I have been lurking for a while and from what I see those that support HRC for POTUS anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #36

I've been on DU for 13 years and from what I see from those that OPPOSE HRC for POTUS wyldwolf Mar 2015 #42

YES! betsuni Mar 2015 #52

Exactly! IMO it's a concerted effort, anyone can join/post on DU. As you say, and RKP5637 Mar 2015 #68

^^ THIS ^^ JoePhilly Mar 2015 #76

"We are Democrats - All of Us." United, not divided! SMC22307 Mar 2015 #114

Case in point ^^^ Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #132

Are tenured members not expected to heed Nance's sage advice? SMC22307 Mar 2015 #139

What does that even mean?? Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #149

Oh FFS, dramatic much? Some people just do not like her. Some people are more liberal...... Logical Mar 2015 #207

"Some people just do not like her." And that I can respect. wyldwolf Mar 2015 #210

My observations as another longtimer, also. And that applies to more than HRC. jobycom Mar 2015 #368

Welcome to DU yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #45

True, and they seem hell bent on extracting vows to support HRC when she gets the nomination peacebird Mar 2015 #56

You got banned because you violated a safe haven. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #133

What safe haven? android fan Mar 2015 #189

The HRC room is a safe haven and posting negative things are not allowed. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #191

I'm happy to not jump in the HRC forum and start picking fights. Maedhros Mar 2015 #249

Do you have evidence to back this up? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #250

Just the titles of the threads. Maedhros Mar 2015 #253

Back up your claim and provide evidence. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #254

Edited original post to comply. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #257

So you are accusing me of trying to get people like you to jump in so I can ban you? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #260

I'm not accusing YOU of anything. Maedhros Mar 2015 #263

You used one of my titles here and you know I am one of the hosts. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #266

I didn't check to see who posted the threads. Maedhros Mar 2015 #268

You picked ond of my threads so you are personally accusing me of trying to bait people. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #269

On edit, I removed the thread that you are referring to (before our exchange really began). Maedhros Mar 2015 #271

On edit nothing. post 253 still has my post title in it. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #274

Seriously? Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #277

The folks in the HRC forum are about to learn BEYOND ALL DOUBT the living hell that BOG Number23 Mar 2015 #292

Oh, I was thinking the same thing Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #297

. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #311

That would never happen. I believe you Justin. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #313

I visit Hillary Room occasionallyand see NO ONE taunting the "opponents." misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #275

We have to wear our boots enough as it is. William769 Mar 2015 #278

. pintobean Mar 2015 #194

When you become a host and take responsibility for running anything here I might listen to what you hrmjustin Mar 2015 #195

in Latin American parties it's called "officialism": the majority or controlling force of a party MisterP Mar 2015 #161

Vow's of Support, eh? Just like a cult! How do they enforce it, cyber bullying? anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #234

Welcome to DU! peacebird Mar 2015 #237

I am one of the hosts of the HRC room and if someone violates our rules we have the power to ban the hrmjustin Mar 2015 #240

Not being a fan of the future representive of Goldman Sachs, the HRC Room is a place to avoid anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #324

I can't ban you unless you post in the room. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #330

Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #298

I agree with Peg. cwydro Mar 2015 #38

I try to leave most posts too... Blanks Mar 2015 #245

Agree. nt cwydro Mar 2015 #280

RE: The jury system wyldwolf Mar 2015 #41

I am not posting as much as I used to.. AsahinaKimi Mar 2015 #48

Me neither. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #318

Who can blame them! There is so much anti democratic principles and rhetoric until mfcorey1 Mar 2015 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #53

nothing delights me more... Phentex Mar 2015 #54

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #55

Clear as mud. Phentex Mar 2015 #58

also, do you mind if I quote you? Phentex Mar 2015 #62

I made notes when I saw that one, too. betsuni Mar 2015 #105

*snort* To be honest, I'm laughing my ass off right now. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #142

Wow, that is some hate there from that guy NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #157

Someone upthread said the same thing but with much more subtlety, point was taken however.n/t seaglass Mar 2015 #171

a small handful of men on this thread, on DI blame feminists and AA about du, often. seabeyond Mar 2015 #349

"Normal," heh. Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #172

Eh, DU wise and otherwise underpants Mar 2015 #57

No, I can't say that I have. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #60

Not really... Phentex Mar 2015 #64

DU goes in waves. CJCRANE Mar 2015 #65

It's almost primary time. The annoying big mouths on both sides of any argument here ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #66

Who are the trolls? pintobean Mar 2015 #69

I think I might know what you're talking about. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #87

It's several cliques pintobean Mar 2015 #89

I agree Andy823 Mar 2015 #150

Sad but goddamn true. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #188

Well, I unabashedly claim a clique ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #299

if only racism and misogyny and homophobia was allow on a democratic progressive board, seabeyond Mar 2015 #350

Oh, it's allowed ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #360

the same ole comes on this thread and calls out groups, the staple of the democratic party. seabeyond Mar 2015 #363

Someone here didn't like me mentioning what Rahm said. Octafish Mar 2015 #168

+1000, my god the whining here is also getting old. nt Logical Mar 2015 #208

and who is doing the whining? sounds like pinto.... not getting to put his misogynist crap on du. seabeyond Mar 2015 #353

how long has this thread been up? and the men that spend their time on DI dissing duers are here to seabeyond Mar 2015 #351

My post has nothing to do with race and/or gender. pintobean Mar 2015 #356

bullshit. "purity police" says it all, along with a posting history both on DI and DU seabeyond Mar 2015 #358

Well, you seem to think the shoe fits pintobean Mar 2015 #362

this post has nothing to do with what i said to you, just bullshit backtracking. whatever seabeyond Mar 2015 #366

Huh? pintobean Mar 2015 #367

Lot of teamwork on the part of DUers who don't contribute a damn thing but insults. Octafish Mar 2015 #70

Pretty much why I just lurk now. Puglover Mar 2015 #79

Those who are undemocratic stand out. Octafish Mar 2015 #83

Aw thanks. Puglover Mar 2015 #86

Happy Birthday, Puglover! Octafish Mar 2015 #93

Happy Birthday, Puglover! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #129

Thanks very much! Puglover Mar 2015 #131

Happy birthday! pecwae Mar 2015 #164

Yeah isn't that crazy Pecwae??? Puglover Mar 2015 #165

Happy Birthday to one of my ALL Time FAVORITE DUERS... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #218

Thanks Darlin. Puglover Mar 2015 #230

I do. Haven't touched it in a long time. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #238

When he is 21 he will be Mom's biggest champion. Puglover Mar 2015 #241

Aw yes the garden is calling. malokvale77 Mar 2015 #248

Homophobes don't belong at DU... SidDithers Mar 2015 #90

Nice smear. Octafish Mar 2015 #103

Homophobes don't belong at DU... SidDithers Mar 2015 #106

Smear artists do, though? Octafish Mar 2015 #115

What, you deny that you link to the writers like Wayne Madsen and Paul Craig Roberts?... SidDithers Mar 2015 #121

You didn't bookmark this? Octafish Mar 2015 #122

You are denying that Madsen is a homophobe and PCR is a racist?... SidDithers Mar 2015 #124

What is this Sid? Caretha Mar 2015 #345

Agree. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #140

yes jeff, cause how horrible it is that the MRA and white men do not vote dem because the women and seabeyond Mar 2015 #357

Results! sheshe2 Mar 2015 #423

One of the best juries I've ever had the pleasure to serve on. MerryBlooms Mar 2015 #424

yes, a very interesting and talkative group of jurors. seabeyond Mar 2015 #425

I'm expcting a 'love' note from either an admin or member. MerryBlooms Mar 2015 #427

MerryBlooms! sheshe2 Mar 2015 #428

Disneyland MerryBlooms Mar 2015 #431

thank you for posting the jury. and thank you for scrambling for your kindle, lmfao.... seabeyond Mar 2015 #426

You, seabeyond, are a gem. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #430

"DUers who don't contribute a damn thing but insults." malokvale77 Mar 2015 #246

Well said. Yes, there is an organized smear machine at work. woo me with science Mar 2015 #369

Our allegiance to this realm - has a Value. As such, if it is worth fixing laserhaas Mar 2015 #429

I've been here since 2001 deutsey Mar 2015 #71

+1. I also think as individuals age and mature (like fine wines, lol), closeupready Mar 2015 #110

what I notice is that there are maybe a dozen people here who are actually involved in primary Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #73

Yes, conservatives quacking that they're "left." betsuni Mar 2015 #111

Well said, thank you. emulatorloo Mar 2015 #256

Very, very well said. n/t. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #303

I disagree n2doc Mar 2015 #80

Good post. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #130

Runups to elections are always times of flux at this place. Paladin Mar 2015 #82

I have been here since ellie Mar 2015 #85

Well, some of them just die and we don't know about it. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #94

Not especially - people come and go. I miss some of them, but not others. closeupready Mar 2015 #102

Overall this place is great. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #104

Nope. Who has left? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #107

I think he's talking about Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #117

No, I realize that Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #119

After 10 years, I noticed that DUers leaving is constant and does not mean much. aikoaiko Mar 2015 #113

+1. This is the right answer. cbayer Mar 2015 #258

K&R Jamastiene Mar 2015 #120

I've noticed lots of previously banned disruptors... SidDithers Mar 2015 #123

The OP is not about that and you know it. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #166

People come and go. HappyMe Mar 2015 #125

There seem to be a lot less gun nuts SecularMotion Mar 2015 #126

I suggest that people consider the fact that trolls can't be tombstoned Zorra Mar 2015 #138

Could you please pm me these "conservative" posts?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #232

Well, I have noticed the number of longtime/newtime DUer's whining about it KamaAina Mar 2015 #141

"Treacly." SMC22307 Mar 2015 #148

how can we tell if people leave? Enrique Mar 2015 #146

I returned recently after a long hibernation Neon Gods Mar 2015 #163

Use your journal! Phentex Mar 2015 #173

Presumption of bad faith el_bryanto Mar 2015 #178

Yes, this. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #187

I never said you're a bad person. cyberswede Mar 2015 #201

You *did*, however, insinuate..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #202

I stated that your usage of SJW was racist. cyberswede Mar 2015 #206

Hardly. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #217

posting history matters. enough various people have called you out, explained their issues, seabeyond Mar 2015 #355

posting history matters pintobean Mar 2015 #359

yes. call it up pinto, i have no problem with my posting history. i am firmly a progressive dem seabeyond Mar 2015 #365

Does the poster respond to facts with facts? Maedhros Mar 2015 #252

Another META Whining post that should be locked. But as usual will not be. nt Logical Mar 2015 #213

You Don't Believe This Was A Healthy Discussion ??? WillyT Mar 2015 #270

It was 100% meta. But the admins are very inconsistent on their administration of those rules. nt Logical Mar 2015 #273

By META... You Mean...We Don't Get To Disscus DU At DU... A Discussion Board... WillyT Mar 2015 #279

What discussion? You gave us your final opinion in the OP. Dawgs Mar 2015 #352

I am back... liberal N proud Mar 2015 #229

I also notice many Longtime/Newtime Puglover Mar 2015 #233

John Kerry 2004 era DUer Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #247

Agree The Amount Of Democrats Bashing Democrats Is Unprecedented Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #394

the party apparatchik and their minions have destroyed the party and the original DU Doctor_J Mar 2015 #251

I don't know what the answer is, but I know what can help... mother earth Mar 2015 #255

No. The more it changes, the more it stays the same. cbayer Mar 2015 #259

So long as I'm here, it's okay. hunter Mar 2015 #272

I'm pretty sure we outnumber the trolls Generic Brad Mar 2015 #281

I Swear to God, On the Road Mar 2015 #296

You sometimes just have to know the right places to look... Agschmid Mar 2015 #302

They can only ruin what we let them. n/t flvegan Mar 2015 #312

No. It's not nearly the same place it used to be but Beausoir Mar 2015 #314

Newcomers and T-Trolls LoneWolfWisconsin Mar 2015 #344

Welcome to DU cyberswede Mar 2015 #364

I've noticed a few people constantly complaining about this site and the posters here. Rex Mar 2015 #354

I'm about done. Octafish Mar 2015 #379

Good hide. zappaman Mar 2015 #380

Quoting Rahm Emanuel got me a hide? Octafish Mar 2015 #391

If you are going to quote someone, then perhaps you should use quote marks. zappaman Mar 2015 #392

NAZIs in the Republican Party are a serious issue, zappaman. Octafish Mar 2015 #393

. pintobean Mar 2015 #397

I think you linked to the wrong hidden post cyberswede Mar 2015 #406

Sorry about the confusion. Octafish Mar 2015 #407

I love the quote on your tag line. Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #404

A remarkable human being, Ludwig van Beethoven. Octafish Mar 2015 #418

Arguably the greatest composer of classical music of all time Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #420

Don't let the door hitya uhnope Mar 2015 #435

LOL. Octafish Mar 2015 #436

if you're a democrat supporting hillary, it's a hard place to be. spanone Mar 2015 #370

Ain't that the truth! yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2015 #400

not enough masochists or too many sadists carolinayellowdog Mar 2015 #396

That's what the ann--- Mar 2015 #401

Those that whine and preach Hate and Negatively,,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #402

Results of my latest alert from 2 minutes ago. This place is ruined. Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #409

But calling someone "Deary" will get your post hidden for rudeness. Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #414

I don't come here much anymore. Too many relative newbies leaning too far right for my tastes. kestrel91316 Mar 2015 #432

Hillary = not interested in DU anymore. L0oniX Mar 2015 #434

Is it better for me to go out in a blaze of glory and napalm my bridges here? Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #442

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