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In reply to the discussion: A challenge to all GMO supporters. [View all]pnwmom
(110,336 posts)108. To the contrary, there have been multiple studies of epigenetic effects of nutrition.
I wonder why you just assumed there were none.
http://www.livescience.com/21902-diet-epigenetics-grandchildren.html
Recent studies have shown how nutrition dramatically alters the health and appearance of otherwise identical mice. A group led by Randy Jirtle of Duke University demonstrated how mouse clones implanted as embryos in separate mothers will have radical differences in fur color, weight, and risk for chronic diseases depending on what that mother was fed during pregnancy.
That is, the nutrients or lack of thereof changed the DNA environment in such a way that the identical DNA in these mouse clones expressed itself in very different ways.
Building upon this Duke University work, a new study led by Torsten Plösch of University of Groningen, The Netherlands, delineated the numerous ways in which nutrition alters the epigenome of many animals, including adult humans. The paper has been submitted to the journal Biochimie with lead author Josep C. Jiménez-Chillarón of the Paediatric Hospital Sant Joan de Deu, in Spain.
The researchers said that the diet of human adults induces changes in all cells even sperm and egg cells and that these changes can be passed on to offspring.
That is, the nutrients or lack of thereof changed the DNA environment in such a way that the identical DNA in these mouse clones expressed itself in very different ways.
Building upon this Duke University work, a new study led by Torsten Plösch of University of Groningen, The Netherlands, delineated the numerous ways in which nutrition alters the epigenome of many animals, including adult humans. The paper has been submitted to the journal Biochimie with lead author Josep C. Jiménez-Chillarón of the Paediatric Hospital Sant Joan de Deu, in Spain.
The researchers said that the diet of human adults induces changes in all cells even sperm and egg cells and that these changes can be passed on to offspring.
Hints of this were reported in a 2011 paper in Nature by Stanford University scientists who found lingering, positive effects on longevity from nutrition on three generations of the C. elegans worm.
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Maybe this just seems like a really crummy game and people don't want play it. nt
el_bryanto
Mar 2015
#7
I'm glad you enjoyed - fortunately I don't really care so I don't mind losing. nt
el_bryanto
Mar 2015
#20
Pretty much. That our genes are promiscuous in digestion is an odd idea.
Liberal Veteran
Mar 2015
#10
I asked an honest question, admitted as much and even openly declared my laity.
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2015
#17
You want to have a real exploration of the issue - and then call that exploration a game
el_bryanto
Mar 2015
#50
Can you point to a single study in answer to his question? Don't you think it would be a good idea
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#102
To the contrary, there have been multiple studies of epigenetic effects of nutrition.
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#108
The researchers disagree with you. They don't think it's a simple function of fewer calories leading
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#118
I really have zero interest in answering questions with someone who refuses to reciprocate
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#129
Thank you - if you want more info let me know - or tell me it is time to ask my question
SoLeftIAmRight
Mar 2015
#80
Again - Many Thanks - I am going to eat now (GMO corn sad to say) be back soon
SoLeftIAmRight
Mar 2015
#101
I should point out that you are asking another question without having answered the previous one
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#106
Make sure you check out Mike Adam's expose on the mysterious fibers in Chicken McNuggets...
SidDithers
Mar 2015
#220
Coming from the poster who thinks naturalnews is scientifically credible...
SidDithers
Mar 2015
#230
Equating selective breeding with modern genetic engineering is not a valid proposition.
cheapdate
Mar 2015
#233
You ask a good question, since research has shown the epigenetic effects of nutrition.
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#103
What make you think GMO would be any different than any other food in this regard?
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#110
It has been modified -- in different ways, depending on the food. Therefore it is not the same.
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#137
No, I don't think that. In fact, I know it's not true because most corn, for example,
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#160
It means that the millions of people who can't afford more expensive organic foods
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#172
It has been modified before but not genetically modified to withstand large doses of pesticides. n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#179
Food was routinely doused in all sorts of pesticides long before GMOs came along
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#180
Thanks for the link, that makes a lot of sense to me. I am ignorant on this topic.
Rex
Mar 2015
#156
It's why I almost never take the time to engage posters like that anymore...
SidDithers
Mar 2015
#195
you have not answered the question - that makes you a loser in this game
SoLeftIAmRight
Mar 2015
#217
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and go with intellectually lazy...nt
SidDithers
Mar 2015
#231
My touchstone on the subject is Dr. Arpad Pusztai (along with his recommended site, GMwatch.org).
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#221
The funny thing is (yes, I gladly "lose") you imagine you're asking a great question. n/t
Silent3
Mar 2015
#186
Rules of your game are unless we follow your rules you can call us losers? Ironic much? nt
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#244
So we are not only losers but Bud drinkers, Walmart shoppers, & my 17 words wasted your time?
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#250