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In reply to the discussion: A challenge to all GMO supporters. [View all]pnwmom
(110,254 posts)118. The researchers disagree with you. They don't think it's a simple function of fewer calories leading
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to smaller children.
And their paper was published in 2012 by the peer-reviewed publication Biochemie, part of the Elsevier group, along with Lancet and Cell.
I've also linked to another, more recent published study you probably aren't aware of.
You need to keep up.
http://www.livescience.com/21902-diet-epigenetics-grandchildren.html
In 2010, Jiménez-Chillarón and his colleagues took this a step further and found that overfed male mouse pups developed the telltale signs of metabolic syndrome insulin resistance, obesity and glucose intolerance and passed some of these traits to their offspring, which then developed elements of metabolic syndrome without overeating.
But what still is missing, Jiménez-Chillarón told LiveScience, is an understanding of how such information is remembered from generation to generation. Unlike a gene mutation, all of the epigenetic inputs to the DNA environment should be forgotten when a newly formed embryo begins to divide.
"The dogma is that during the process of meiosis [cell division], all epigenetic marks are erased," said Jiménez-Chillarón. "But our work, as well as [the work] from many others, suggests that this is not completely true. Although the majority of epigenetic marks is erased, some marks are spared for unknown reasons."
But what still is missing, Jiménez-Chillarón told LiveScience, is an understanding of how such information is remembered from generation to generation. Unlike a gene mutation, all of the epigenetic inputs to the DNA environment should be forgotten when a newly formed embryo begins to divide.
"The dogma is that during the process of meiosis [cell division], all epigenetic marks are erased," said Jiménez-Chillarón. "But our work, as well as [the work] from many others, suggests that this is not completely true. Although the majority of epigenetic marks is erased, some marks are spared for unknown reasons."
The Abstract of Jimenez-Chillaron's peer-reviewed publication:
http://alcat.cl/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/7.-Epigenetica-la-nutricion-modela-la-genetica.pdf
Nutrition plays a key role in many aspects of health and dietary imbalances are major determinants of chronic diseases including cardiovascular disease, obesity, diabetes and cancer. Adequate nutrition is particularly essential during critical periods in early life (both pre- and postnatal). In this regard, there is extensive epidemiologic and experimental data showing that early sub-optimal nutrition can have health consequences several decades later.
The hypothesis that epigenetic mechanisms may link such nutritional imbalances with altered disease risk has been gaining acceptance over recent years. Epigenetics can be defined as the study of heritable changes in gene expression that do not involve alterations in the DNA sequence. Epigenetic marks include DNA methylation, histone modifications and a variety of non-coding RNAs. Strikingly, they are plastic and respond to environmental signals, including diet. Here we will review how dietary factors modulate the establishment and maintenance of epigenetic marks, thereby influencing gene expression and, hence, disease risk and health.
The hypothesis that epigenetic mechanisms may link such nutritional imbalances with altered disease risk has been gaining acceptance over recent years. Epigenetics can be defined as the study of heritable changes in gene expression that do not involve alterations in the DNA sequence. Epigenetic marks include DNA methylation, histone modifications and a variety of non-coding RNAs. Strikingly, they are plastic and respond to environmental signals, including diet. Here we will review how dietary factors modulate the establishment and maintenance of epigenetic marks, thereby influencing gene expression and, hence, disease risk and health.
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/39841/title/Epigenetic-Effects-of-Mom-s-Diet/
Maternal nutrition around the time of conception can affect the regulatory tagging of her childs DNA from the earliest embryonic stages, according to a study published today (April 29) in Nature Communications, which focused on a population of women and children in Gambia.
The West African country has distinct rainy and dry seasons that dictate its inhabitants diets, making nutrition easy to track. Branwen Hennig from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine and her colleagues sought to determine whether Gambian womens nutrition at conception affected their infants patterns of DNA tags, or methyl groups. The researchers profiled maternal blood samples, looking for nutrients linked to methylation, and examined methylation patterns of infant hair and blood DNA, homing in on specific sites called metastable epiallelessequences where methyl groups appear to be added randomly, compared with the more-predictable patterning of much of the rest of the genome.
Because Hennigs team found similar methylation patterns in the blood and hair samples from the same individuals, and because these patterns varied among individuals, the authors demonstrate that these loci properly fulfill the criteria of metastable epialleles, Gavin Kelsey, an epigeneticist with the Babraham Institute and the University of Cambridge, told The Scientist in an e-mail. This is clearly an interesting paper, said Kelsey, who was not involved in the work, adding that the study extends upon previous reports linking maternal nutrition with epigenetic tagging in both mouse and human offspring.
The real advance of this study is that we nailed it that these regions in the human genome are bona fide metastable epialleles, said study coauthor Robert Waterland, a nutritional epigeneticist at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas. Not only does [the variation] occur stochastically and is influenced by maternal nutrition before and during pregnancy, but also it occurs systemically, throughout the early embryo, he added.
The West African country has distinct rainy and dry seasons that dictate its inhabitants diets, making nutrition easy to track. Branwen Hennig from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine and her colleagues sought to determine whether Gambian womens nutrition at conception affected their infants patterns of DNA tags, or methyl groups. The researchers profiled maternal blood samples, looking for nutrients linked to methylation, and examined methylation patterns of infant hair and blood DNA, homing in on specific sites called metastable epiallelessequences where methyl groups appear to be added randomly, compared with the more-predictable patterning of much of the rest of the genome.
Because Hennigs team found similar methylation patterns in the blood and hair samples from the same individuals, and because these patterns varied among individuals, the authors demonstrate that these loci properly fulfill the criteria of metastable epialleles, Gavin Kelsey, an epigeneticist with the Babraham Institute and the University of Cambridge, told The Scientist in an e-mail. This is clearly an interesting paper, said Kelsey, who was not involved in the work, adding that the study extends upon previous reports linking maternal nutrition with epigenetic tagging in both mouse and human offspring.
The real advance of this study is that we nailed it that these regions in the human genome are bona fide metastable epialleles, said study coauthor Robert Waterland, a nutritional epigeneticist at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas. Not only does [the variation] occur stochastically and is influenced by maternal nutrition before and during pregnancy, but also it occurs systemically, throughout the early embryo, he added.
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Maybe this just seems like a really crummy game and people don't want play it. nt
el_bryanto
Mar 2015
#7
I'm glad you enjoyed - fortunately I don't really care so I don't mind losing. nt
el_bryanto
Mar 2015
#20
Pretty much. That our genes are promiscuous in digestion is an odd idea.
Liberal Veteran
Mar 2015
#10
I asked an honest question, admitted as much and even openly declared my laity.
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2015
#17
You want to have a real exploration of the issue - and then call that exploration a game
el_bryanto
Mar 2015
#50
Can you point to a single study in answer to his question? Don't you think it would be a good idea
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#102
To the contrary, there have been multiple studies of epigenetic effects of nutrition.
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#108
The researchers disagree with you. They don't think it's a simple function of fewer calories leading
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#118
I really have zero interest in answering questions with someone who refuses to reciprocate
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#129
Thank you - if you want more info let me know - or tell me it is time to ask my question
SoLeftIAmRight
Mar 2015
#80
Again - Many Thanks - I am going to eat now (GMO corn sad to say) be back soon
SoLeftIAmRight
Mar 2015
#101
I should point out that you are asking another question without having answered the previous one
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#106
Make sure you check out Mike Adam's expose on the mysterious fibers in Chicken McNuggets...
SidDithers
Mar 2015
#220
Coming from the poster who thinks naturalnews is scientifically credible...
SidDithers
Mar 2015
#230
Equating selective breeding with modern genetic engineering is not a valid proposition.
cheapdate
Mar 2015
#233
You ask a good question, since research has shown the epigenetic effects of nutrition.
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#103
What make you think GMO would be any different than any other food in this regard?
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#110
It has been modified -- in different ways, depending on the food. Therefore it is not the same.
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#137
No, I don't think that. In fact, I know it's not true because most corn, for example,
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#160
It means that the millions of people who can't afford more expensive organic foods
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#172
It has been modified before but not genetically modified to withstand large doses of pesticides. n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#179
Food was routinely doused in all sorts of pesticides long before GMOs came along
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#180
Thanks for the link, that makes a lot of sense to me. I am ignorant on this topic.
Rex
Mar 2015
#156
It's why I almost never take the time to engage posters like that anymore...
SidDithers
Mar 2015
#195
you have not answered the question - that makes you a loser in this game
SoLeftIAmRight
Mar 2015
#217
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and go with intellectually lazy...nt
SidDithers
Mar 2015
#231
My touchstone on the subject is Dr. Arpad Pusztai (along with his recommended site, GMwatch.org).
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#221
The funny thing is (yes, I gladly "lose") you imagine you're asking a great question. n/t
Silent3
Mar 2015
#186
Rules of your game are unless we follow your rules you can call us losers? Ironic much? nt
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#244
So we are not only losers but Bud drinkers, Walmart shoppers, & my 17 words wasted your time?
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#250