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libodem

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55. In a world

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 08:25 PM

Mar 2015

With any sense of decency it would never have been an issue. I believe it was fomented and overseen from early on and then beaten to death like a dead horse, year after year. The humiliating flogging of someone who was contrite. Nobody cared. How it was kept in the courts for so long? It was manufactured just like Bengazi has been. Trumped up bs.

That being said look who you are dealing with. They don't play fair. It's ugly and relentless. I find the former first lady a national treasure. She is like a mother figure and an example of competency in law and government. And the Republicans are poised to start a shit show just to stink up the place.
It's especially hurtful to see the party of family values attack a woman, wife, and mother, but expect it. It will provoke our sympathy. And hurt our feelings.

Get used to it.

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Is Monica Lewinsky's blue dress a relevant issue when discussing Hillary Clinton? [View all] geek tragedy Mar 2015 OP

Why not? They sold themselves as a package deal. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #1

So Hilary can claim the success of the Clinton Presidency is hers? nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #12

she already has and does AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #18

Well....then I look forward to her third term. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #20

she is inevitabler than ever AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #25

Well, if Gore had done so, we wouldn't have had to deal with Bush at all... Scootaloo Mar 2015 #58

So every job created under the Clinton presidency also counts in her favor then? nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #19

Gee, I didn't know that she was Bill's mother. Beacool Mar 2015 #23

So according to your logic you give her credit for his successes, right? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #34

Something is wrong with this board, I see your question but no answers...what happened? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #60

. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #64

I answered it for the 1st responder to my post AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #72

Can I download it onto my phone? LOL no thanks, I can bet what your answer is NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #75

or you could like read it AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #76

Actually you didn't answer my question. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #82

That works for me. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #115

Me too! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #116

you didn't vote in the poll. Why not go on the record? wyldwolf Mar 2015 #80

It's a badly worded poll. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #84

Yet you're arguing a position. wyldwolf Mar 2015 #85

said conservatives uponit7771 Mar 2015 #98

Bullshit. As the OP stated there are legitimate criticisms, but this is just a straw man and only still_one Mar 2015 #105

Yes bigwillq Mar 2015 #2

I thought it was yellow. (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #3

The dress? No. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #4

certainly some think it's relevant. The question is whether people at DU think geek tragedy Mar 2015 #6

I don't think it's going to change a single vote that wasn't already decided years ago. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #13

Yeah, like what, choosing to remain married? Beacool Mar 2015 #22

It's great that you think so. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #28

We live in a puritanical country where hypocrisy reigns. Beacool Mar 2015 #39

Bingo Hekate Mar 2015 #44

While I mostly agree with that, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #46

Let's talk about Bibi's blowjob instead Still Sensible Mar 2015 #5

now there's a real scandal nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #7

. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #11

LOL NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #65

that's not right!! uponit7771 Mar 2015 #99

No Hillary is her own person and not responsible for his sins. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #8

I find the issue utterly sexist. Beacool Mar 2015 #9

Agreed! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #15

That's my take, DU jury disagreed nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #17

+1 DawgHouse Mar 2015 #26

The definition of sexist. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #66

Geek, this board is a place for some people to exhaust their negative energy. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #10

. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #16

I'll take Bill's 9 BJ's (yes, Starr took note of the total number) Beacool Mar 2015 #30

Bush fucked the entire country plus a good chunk of the planet nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #35

This In_The_Wind Mar 2015 #14

The bj certainly is irrelevant. If it's in response to another poster bringing Monica Autumn Mar 2015 #21

Discussion of a twenty year old blowjob is a "reasonable discussion?" nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #42

If a poster responds to a post where it is referred to yes it is. n/t Autumn Mar 2015 #45

Can you cite where that blowjob was referred to? nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #47

I'm not a lawyer and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night so I'm not interested in citing Autumn Mar 2015 #49

So you are suggesting a hypothetical, then? As to when it would be appropriate msanthrope Mar 2015 #50

The OP stated it was brought up by another poster on DU so I guess it's someones hypothetical. n/t Autumn Mar 2015 #52

Absolutely and completely irrelevant. nt hifiguy Mar 2015 #24

It is relevant in that anyone who would bring it up, in this context, is telling us much about who NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #68

I voted NO since you didn't have Cha Mar 2015 #27

The only people it was relevant to back then were the psycho repukes William769 Mar 2015 #29

No the dress was never relevant. TexasProgresive Mar 2015 #31

Only that she continued to stay married to a man glasshouses Mar 2015 #32

I believe there was a Jewish carpenter who said... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #36

Still doesn't change the fact what I wrote is true glasshouses Mar 2015 #37

We all are fallen./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #38

But we sinners can still hurl dead cats, then, right? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #48

Are you suggesting that glsshouses stayed married to Bill Clinton for political reasons? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #62

I was taught it's generally bad form to peer into other people's relationships DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #67

Wow! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #40

Tell me if this had been a GOP President and his wife glasshouses Mar 2015 #69

First off you should not presumd to speak for me. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #74

Nope, I wouldn't have given an iota if Bush had cheated on Laura. Beacool Mar 2015 #93

My post wasn't about Bill Clinton or his accomplishments as POTUS glasshouses Mar 2015 #95

Your username is ironic. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #43

In our society women often stay with men they dont want to stay with because to not do so NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #71

First of all Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #89

Bullshit. Beacool Mar 2015 #91

I've always felt their marriage became one of political convenience LittleBlue Mar 2015 #113

It's irrelevant until Bill injects himself into the campaign tularetom Mar 2015 #33

He campaigned for Kerry, Obama, and numerous other Democrats... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #41

It doesn't matter to me that Clinton lied about a BJ tularetom Mar 2015 #79

If the Republicans want to make the election a referendum on the Clinton presidency... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #83

Huh? Her dress was green and gold! KamaAina Mar 2015 #51

Well played. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #54

As a candidate, it is irrelevant. Bonobo Mar 2015 #53

In a world libodem Mar 2015 #55

The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary... SidDithers Mar 2015 #56

Ah, again with the left-baiting Scootaloo Mar 2015 #59

I'm not Sid (or Skinner) but the left tends to cleave geek tragedy Mar 2015 #70

The left cares about her Iraq war vote, Goldman Sachs money, TPP, & Keystone. The RW cares not think Mar 2015 #101

Uhhhhh... Let me think... NOPE! nt longship Mar 2015 #57

good god. eom uppityperson Mar 2015 #61

It's relevant in that the GOP wasted 77 million on a partisan attack. tenderfoot Mar 2015 #63

No. Fuck no. Never. Why? The stupid burns us!!!! Rex Mar 2015 #73

The part of the country that cares about this is the biggest consumer of porn. If that isn't ironic stevenleser Mar 2015 #77

If it doesn't fit mikehiggins Mar 2015 #78

Holding Hillary Clinton responsible for her husbands acts is Sexist. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #81

Close but no cigar Blue Owl Mar 2015 #86

A vote for Hillary is a vote for Bill to become First Gentleman Dems to Win Mar 2015 #87

Someone once said "Part of the campaign=fair game for Lady Stepford." hughee99 Mar 2015 #88

excellent use of the google. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #90

I guess that depends on who you ask. hughee99 Mar 2015 #92

probably neither is, though some degree of partisanship will change perceptions. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #94

I completely understand the feeling. hughee99 Mar 2015 #97

The next couple of years are going to rip away the veil from the undercurrents of misogyny in this country Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #96

I do not support Hillary, I don't think it's relevant, it's going to be trotted out repeatedly. PeteSelman Mar 2015 #100

The anti Hillary folks and the concern trolls really do seem desperate to find something... brooklynite Mar 2015 #102

isnt that the truth still_one Mar 2015 #107

That dress was white! Generic Brad Mar 2015 #103

Monica Lewinsky's blue dress isn't relevant when... Kalidurga Mar 2015 #104

If Mrs. Clinton sold herself as a street-walker for the next 10 years, she'd still... BlueJazz Mar 2015 #106

1000% NO! Stupid question! nt Logical Mar 2015 #108

It Is Not Relevant To Me Liberal_Dog Mar 2015 #109

Only if Clinton is wearing it Tom Ripley Mar 2015 #110

missing poll option DBoon Mar 2015 #111

Jesus, I'm no Hillary fan Aerows Mar 2015 #112

Of course not. Why would it be? NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #114

No, unless you want to talk about Hillary's great restraint. Vinca Mar 2015 #117

Was it a BLUE dress or really a GOLD dress? B Calm Mar 2015 #118