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TheKentuckian

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10. A completely disturbing and unacceptable mess that is far from isolated to Ferguson
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:15 AM
Mar 2015

I haven't finished the report yet but it seems refreshingly honest in description of problems but to anchored to the status quo on solutions for there to be any really substantive changes in how police deal with the public.

I'm getting the idea the "solution" is to keep doing what is being done now but to do it better. I hope I've not gathered it and deep changes are really advanced.

Ferguson as a municipality needs either to be disbanded or totally reloaded at minimum. It is not just a cop problem, it may not even really be a majority cop issue as they appear to have been tasked, severely pressed to squeeze the fuck out of the black community, and accountable if they didn't.
The corruption of the government seems to be the dog wagging the tail of the counter constitutional, racist, highly abusive police force.

It is really bad and completely toxic but the worst part is it isn't isolated to Ferguson but rather highlighted there, we as many of us have been saying the whole time have a national crisis here.
A crisis that I fear it is beyond unlikely anyone will seriously try to rectify beyond bandaid type measures to massage the situation, systematic reform having moved beyond the imagination much less the comfort zone of the upper classes and white Americans in general and the politicians in particular.

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Posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #1
The report made me sick octoberlib Mar 2015 #2
The biggest diference between now and 1960 Cryptoad Mar 2015 #3
In Ferguson, I'd bet that Voting While Black is seen as a crime. NT Jerry442 Mar 2015 #15
Blaming the victims promoted to high art. Jeesh! - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #23
Not blaming them.... just the facts..... Cryptoad Mar 2015 #42
One should continue to enjoy one's constitutional rights whether one KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #47
I implied no such thing,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #62
They voted in a Democrat for Governor BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #57
Maybe you haven't read WHY AAs don't vote? I haven't read the entire report, but I hope this was sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #69
Really important points. No wonder the PDs are obtaining military equipment. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2015 #71
I continued to amazed by the number of people Cryptoad Mar 2015 #72
I believe I said 'sweeping changes' not 'revolution' so that part of your post is irrelevant to me. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #74
By using absurd drug laws to turn so many minorities into felons, tblue37 Mar 2015 #82
People with felonies on their record can vote in MO loyalsister Mar 2015 #84
downloaded the full report to read later i did read the summary dembotoz Mar 2015 #4
They couldn't get a civil rights charge out of this? MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #5
From what I gathered as far as Mike Brown they punted to the grand jury TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #13
Manny, we'll just leave that to the individual states! bullwinkle428 Mar 2015 #19
People must become more involved in local politics. I am disappointed in the DoJ. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #56
I agree. Investigations without consequences bbgrunt Mar 2015 #64
Does make you wonder, doesn't it. calimary Mar 2015 #80
FPD is NOT... NOT unique... There are MANY communities who have this relationship with the local uponit7771 Mar 2015 #6
Ferguson Mayor and Police Chief: "I see nothing, I know nothing!" No accident, a plan. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #7
SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts says there is no racism. Would it be racist to say something Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #8
yes. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #67
"At what point would you say that the man with the gun needs to do something?" Brickbat Mar 2015 #9
AKA: "Armed struggle." Holder yesterday said, "There's never any excuse for KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #25
I found it interesting, considering how the author usually writes about guns. Brickbat Mar 2015 #28
A completely disturbing and unacceptable mess that is far from isolated to Ferguson TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #10
This shows what would happen if the GOP took control of the USA. They would make rladdi Mar 2015 #11
Nixon is a Democrat and I think you greatly underestimate how deep and wide these problems are. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #18
Well to paraphrase a famous quote. zeemike Mar 2015 #36
National DNA is not gene based but more of an analogy. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #38
Well it does work as an analogy. zeemike Mar 2015 #40
Hmmm...I think DNA can be altered and it will probably take at least as drastic TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #61
I agree with that, the solution must be fundamental. zeemike Mar 2015 #63
Yes, the cops did monsterous things sarge43 Mar 2015 #12
There are actually people on this very board happy-dancing the clearance of Wilson alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #14
This is horrible fasttense Mar 2015 #16
now what. KG Mar 2015 #17
K&R ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #20
There are so many more just in the same region... Moostache Mar 2015 #21
"USA! USA! USA!" :sarcasm: - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #22
Strange sort of non sequitur. But, whatever. n/t Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #33
Ah, so you think Ferguson is an isolated case, do you, or that KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #34
Go away. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #35
Bit of a strong reaction there Buzz Clik tkmorris Mar 2015 #44
Seemed appropriate to me. We seem to differ. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #45
Are you this rude in real life or do you just play a rude person hidden behind KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #46
wow heaven05 Mar 2015 #24
Where are all the Ferguson PD and St. Louis County PD copologists now? - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #26
and how many ferguson's exist across america? spanone Mar 2015 #27
That is a very good point. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #30
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Thank you, Rude. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #29
KNR. And let's not forget the ticket racket. DirkGently Mar 2015 #31
Thanks for this. Very informative. And validating... Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #32
Next memorial day I am going to have a new plaque to put on my civil war anscestors grave. Died jwirr Mar 2015 #37
That is so sad. Although nothing I write can invalidate your feelings, I would merely KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #48
Thank you for that reminder. It helps. I think one of the real sorrows is that it is not JUST jwirr Mar 2015 #50
I was so pissed off about this last fall that I was readying myself to travel KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #52
Nor will I. jwirr Mar 2015 #53
: onecaliberal Mar 2015 #39
Seconded. nt cyberswede Mar 2015 #43
This is the "official" report on Ferguson mountain grammy Mar 2015 #41
Thanks for the link. nt F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #73
some day soon, a group of people will converge on a cop pulling this shit.. frylock Mar 2015 #49
Fuckers! Scurrilous Mar 2015 #51
The chief of police and the command structure need to be fired. Then go back through the records. peacebird Mar 2015 #54
In a nearby town, they simply disbanded the police department csziggy Mar 2015 #77
Did not know this, why isn't there a national database listing bad cops? peacebird Mar 2015 #81
That would be a step towards addressing it loyalsister Mar 2015 #83
beyond obscene niyad Mar 2015 #55
Only here, it's the Alaska Natives. raven mad Mar 2015 #58
I agree.nt bravenak Mar 2015 #75
Damn. Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #59
I would like to see the legal volunteers who were at the protests BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #60
Thank you for posting. KeepItReal Mar 2015 #65
I Intend To Read All Of It, Just Not At This Moment... ChiciB1 Mar 2015 #66
kick Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #68
It seems that Holder never bring any charges Unknown Beatle Mar 2015 #70
k&r... spanone Mar 2015 #76
This may be facetious but Ferguson PD seems like a successful business model Euphoria Mar 2015 #78
Tasers are called "Electronic Control Weapons"? Because - Zardoz? Matariki Mar 2015 #79
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