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BeyondGeography

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11. You are quite right to be worried about turnout, IMO

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:19 PM

Mar 2015

That's why I wish Warren would run. I know she's not, but it would have the healthy effect of mobilizing her voters, and the even healthier effect of getting more of them to respect Hillary's political abilities, which are very substantial. Right now, too many of them are completely unreasonable on the matter. An uncompetitive nomination process will not help.

I started out in 2007 very anti-Hillary and I will never really warm up to her the way I did, say, to Obama. But her strengths became quite clear as the campaign wore on (as did her weaknesses, but everyone has them) and, had she not been so ill-served by her campaign team she might very well have won anyway. To her most ardent detractors, I wouldn't detail those strengths, I would just say, you want to find out? Run against her. You might not even mind voting for her when it 's all over.

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There certainly will be Democratic primary elections. [View all] MineralMan Mar 2015 OP

I hope that we will have a primary sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #1

It will take more than "somewhat popular." MineralMan Mar 2015 #2

It's called the non-white vote and she has a hammerlock on it BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #5

I suspect that Hillary will pull in a lot of women voters, MineralMan Mar 2015 #7

You are quite right to be worried about turnout, IMO BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #11

I'll bet that Warren will be a big supporter if Hillary gets the nod. MineralMan Mar 2015 #14

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #34

Yes, she will. She knows how many want her to run, and she'll deliver a significant bloc of voters. libdem4life Mar 2015 #41

Honestly, I think all it will take is an opportunistic CanadaexPat Mar 2015 #16

All what will take? MineralMan Mar 2015 #17

That poster is always difficult to understand Hekate Mar 2015 #21

All 17 posts? libdem4life Mar 2015 #42

May it please the Court I will amend my statement. Poster alleges Justice Ginsberg is ... Hekate Mar 2015 #52

Should have used the sarcasm thingy...17 posts indicates to me not only a newbie, but of perhaps libdem4life Mar 2015 #53

Yup Hekate Mar 2015 #54

And the 'dark horse' is.................Martin O'Malley TheNutcracker Mar 2015 #28

I think there will be as well... Spazito Mar 2015 #3

I think O'Malley will run. MineralMan Mar 2015 #4

" He's going to have to ramp up quickly to correct that." Spazito Mar 2015 #6

Absolutely. MineralMan Mar 2015 #8

+1 n/t FSogol Mar 2015 #43

I believe you are correct. old guy Mar 2015 #9

Just my musings, based on almost 50 years MineralMan Mar 2015 #18

Well said. I don't get why people are saying their won't be a primary. William769 Mar 2015 #10

It's a meme, that "coronation" thing. MineralMan Mar 2015 #12

Suggesting she's the only real candidate when she hasnt even announced yet, is silly. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #24

The same everybodies who made the same assertion in 2007 Scootaloo Mar 2015 #27

Exactly. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #32

Why? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #36

Okay, she doesn't need to announce, but everyone needs to accept that she's their only choice, and Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #38

Again. why? ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #39

Do you really think HRC is NOT going to run? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #35

No, I'll eat my hat if she doesn't run. Like I said, I may even support her in the primaries. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #37

I suspect there will be others in the primary ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #40

She may be the nominee. In fact I think her chances are pretty good. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #56

Funny, I don't see any "DU Demands for everyone to support HRC, now ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #57

If you don't see it, it must not be a problem, eh? Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #58

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #59

okay Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #60

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #61

"no Democratic Party credibility" - I'm not sure what you mean by that phrase. Since KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #46

Sanders has a distinct opportunity to alter the conversation MineralMan Mar 2015 #48

Also the age factor. Sanders would be 75 at his inauguration, should such an KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #49

Well, it will be interesting to watch, for sure. MineralMan Mar 2015 #51

No, if it will be a primary with sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #13

Well, if people want substantial primary opposition, MineralMan Mar 2015 #15

Get moving why? Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #26

Again, she doesn't have to announce...she's saving and accumulating campaign money and staff. libdem4life Mar 2015 #44

I know she's running. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #55

LOL! Rex Mar 2015 #19

Thanks for your reply and kick. MineralMan Mar 2015 #20

KnR because you just keep on keeping on, MinMan. Hekate Mar 2015 #22

Some people sure are angry and resentful when they are reminded of that. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #23

Smear. bigwillq Mar 2015 #25

"It's her turn!" Scootaloo Mar 2015 #30

Congrats on 16,000 posts! bigwillq Mar 2015 #31

I'll definitely support her if she's the nominee, I may even support her in the primaries. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #33

I prefer to think of it as 'Brzezinski-era policy,' since the USSR has collapsed and KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #47

There was a Democratic primary in 2012 too. tritsofme Mar 2015 #29

Well-written and argued. - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #45

Thanks. I consider that high praise. MineralMan Mar 2015 #50

Sanity is refreshing panader0 Mar 2015 #62

So I believe, too. MineralMan Mar 2015 #63

Other women Querent Mar 2015 #64