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DirkGently

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13. Excellent point. Of course, as usual,

Reply to seabeyond (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:28 PM

Mar 2015

one demographic's improving situation is perceived as a setback by members of the group that's already doing fine.

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Clever girls, stupid boys? [View all] DavidDvorkin Mar 2015 OP

even when boys' work is just as good, the higher grade is more likely to go to a girl Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #1

Brace yourself. DavidDvorkin Mar 2015 #2

did i crack open pandora's box Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #3

Post ho ergo prompter hoc LanternWaste Mar 2015 #10

What evidence do you have for that? n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #26

that's what it said in the article Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #48

Yeah, the article said it, but did the study, really? Adrahil Mar 2015 #50

Even today, men dominate the sciences. Perhaps we know why. yes we do Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #53

WTF? Adrahil Mar 2015 #69

women shouldnt let sexist asshats define their future Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #71

Shut up, you Patriarch. AngryAmish Mar 2015 #32

How about because girls have to be twice a good to get half as far? alarimer Mar 2015 #4

That's not what this study shows. DavidDvorkin Mar 2015 #5

Why is there a wage gap? Major Nikon Mar 2015 #6

Because discrimination is in no way related to the circumstances of most womens' lives... antigone382 Mar 2015 #18

And men are expected to work more hours in less favorable conditions Major Nikon Mar 2015 #19

Difference being one is formally financially compensated and the other is not. antigone382 Mar 2015 #20

Which goes into the same household income Major Nikon Mar 2015 #23

Oh good, I'll just let my hypothetical husband do the earning for me. antigone382 Mar 2015 #24

Or alternatively, we could address gender disparities so everyone has a chance to earn an income... antigone382 Mar 2015 #25

In my household there were no such disparities Major Nikon Mar 2015 #27

I'm glad for your individual, anecdotal experience, comprising a single data point in a sea of stats antigone382 Mar 2015 #28

As was yours Major Nikon Mar 2015 #36

I haven't yet referenced my personal experience. antigone382 Mar 2015 #39

I could care less if you do Major Nikon Mar 2015 #45

I see your point. antigone382 Mar 2015 #54

Oh, SNAP! chervilant Mar 2015 #77

Most European countries have the same wage gap we do davidn3600 Mar 2015 #47

I think the specific cases and studies I referenced to paint a picture of discrimination. antigone382 Mar 2015 #55

Who exactly do you want to write that check, though? davidn3600 Mar 2015 #73

I think there are different ways of structuring that. antigone382 Mar 2015 #74

In some countries men get leave and the kid is with a parent for up to YEAR.... MADem Mar 2015 #76

LOL, it's not the fities anymore. bettyellen Mar 2015 #42

shh Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #58

unless you know somebody snooper2 Mar 2015 #16

"Girls are more likely to be better behaved in class" DirkGently Mar 2015 #7

Famous movie lines #823 Fumesucker Mar 2015 #8

This is a serious problem. But it's not politically correct to talk about it. davidn3600 Mar 2015 #9

men are not going to college less. their numbers are not escalating like womens. seabeyond Mar 2015 #11

Excellent point. Of course, as usual, DirkGently Mar 2015 #13

+1 Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #21

Judging from the men whining about this, you are right. alarimer Mar 2015 #40

I think zero-sum thinking is hard-wired. DirkGently Mar 2015 #56

it's interesting because when men act selfishly they often cite women as the reason- they need more bettyellen Mar 2015 #62

if we are talking biological, i would say more survival. with a greater income of more, seabeyond Mar 2015 #63

Cooperative society calls for different values DirkGently Mar 2015 #66

well, ya. and that is exactly the point. we do not have to eat so fast. we can slow down. seabeyond Mar 2015 #67

distinction without a difference. woolldog Mar 2015 #33

Thank you Seabeyond Matariki Mar 2015 #43

There is a lack of women in STEM. You don't think that's a problem that should be addressed? DanTex Mar 2015 #12

I didn't say it wasn't a problem davidn3600 Mar 2015 #15

If they're being denied access, then yes. If they're choosing other majors, then no. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #31

Both factors are in play. And they are related. DanTex Mar 2015 #35

Testosterone! The most lethal substance on earth. hunter Mar 2015 #14

PEOPLE are often stupid. DavidDvorkin Mar 2015 #17

gee if mercuryblues Mar 2015 #37

you do not know how hard i had to fight for my two boys RIGHT to be smart while in middle school seabeyond Mar 2015 #38

nope- it's just that more women and minorities are going, and somehow this bettyellen Mar 2015 #44

You get out what you put in? Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #22

Naw, it couldn't be that. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #51

It must be our fault that boys don't do homework either Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #59

Yes, they will say we distract them too much. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #61

exactly women. i finally went in and read the damn thing, and ya. and the men are saying in this seabeyond Mar 2015 #64

I don't think those types will ever "get it." Jamastiene Mar 2015 #65

Exactly right. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #29

when I was a little boy we use to say dumb old girls. . . B Calm Mar 2015 #30

Girls rule; Boys drool. MineralMan Mar 2015 #34

Is it too late for this? Matariki Mar 2015 #41

Or maybe they are just smarter? treestar Mar 2015 #46

Yes, the author confuses ability and performance. Karia Mar 2015 #72

I look forward to your Ops. trumad Mar 2015 #49

... Jamastiene Mar 2015 #52

Clever girls. Stupid article. eom. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #57

here is the thing. for the last two decades i have been knee deep in this, seabeyond Mar 2015 #60

I got something completely different from the actual OECD link where they discuss the survey stevenleser Mar 2015 #68

I raised a boy and a girl... one_voice Mar 2015 #70

Hmmm.... Wella Mar 2015 #75