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mike_c

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24. are you OK with these black-clad thugs...?

Tue May 1, 2012, 01:15 PM

May 2012

Ultimately, this is the institutionalized violence that begets the black bloc, whose violence is a response to oppression. Not everyone has the stomach for nonviolence in the face of institutionalized brutality. Nor should they, frankly.

More and more, when I see pictures of police violence, I believe that some measure of violent response will be necessary in the end. These pigs treat people with legitimate grievances as targets and baton fodder. They represent institutions with unbounded greed and utter disdain for human rights and egalitarianism. I ADMIRE those willing to sacrifice themselves nonviolently-- and at my age suddenly find myself with few other options, frankly-- but I also respect those who meet oppression with forceful resistance.

Somebody has to do it.

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I'm growing extremely tired of these "black-clad, masked protesters" ruining everything [View all] arcane1 May 2012 OP

Maybe they are NOT from Occupy may day 2012 May 2012 #1

I never mentioned where they are from, just that I hate them arcane1 May 2012 #6

Welcome to fascism. may day 2012 May 2012 #11

Ture, you've been here for a couple of hours now, so you're an expert arcane1 May 2012 #15

It's already gone. redqueen May 2012 #28

Good riddance! arcane1 May 2012 #35

Signed up today, just insult people, eh? jberryhill May 2012 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author G_j May 2012 #16

"maybe you're just a big old shill" is a relevant point? n/t arcane1 May 2012 #26

sorry! I missed that, too much in a hurry.. G_j May 2012 #31

No worries arcane1 May 2012 #33

for sure G_j May 2012 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill May 2012 #29

Thanks MIRT for taking out this 'agent provocateur.' freshwest May 2012 #18

And maybe you are just a little old troll Rex May 2012 #30

It is the peaceful, thoughful people who get hurt by this, but apparently they don't care. freshwest May 2012 #2

One unfortunate thing about assholes RZM May 2012 #3

Me too. Warren Stupidity May 2012 #4

Where was that picture taken? RZM May 2012 #7

That's from Egypt, nt independentpiney May 2012 #10

Thanks n/t RZM May 2012 #22

The thugs in black with masks are the same all over the globe. Warren Stupidity May 2012 #34

Growing tired of the undercover cops ruining everything, you mean? villager May 2012 #5

Black Block up to their same ol' bullshit. Hell Hath No Fury May 2012 #8

Who benefits from them ruining everything? That's their employer nt independentpiney May 2012 #9

Eyewitness report raises questions about who the vandals REALLY were: pinboy3niner May 2012 #12

Thanks for that, a great read!!! arcane1 May 2012 #17

If you mess with them, take the masks off FIRST, so videos get their faces... saras May 2012 #14

Amen to that! n/t arcane1 May 2012 #20

So, you'd try to take a mask offf of someone who is threatening you with a metal pipe? Luminous Animal May 2012 #38

I would. I'd bring a bigger metal pipe. Zalatix May 2012 #41

Occupiers are non-violent and peaceful. Luminous Animal May 2012 #43

So were the Syrian protesters. And the protesters in China. Zalatix May 2012 #46

I said "if you mess with them..." if you don't want to, then do something else. saras May 2012 #47

The real Occupy members don't wear masks. Scuba May 2012 #19

they should... mike_c May 2012 #32

Many do. I know at least one woman who was fired from her job after being identified Luminous Animal May 2012 #45

They get paid to 'ruin everything'! Rex May 2012 #21

why are people afraid or hate people with masks ??? annm4peace May 2012 #23

true dat 2pooped2pop May 2012 #39

are you OK with these black-clad thugs...? mike_c May 2012 #24

When I saw them club Robert Hass and drag Celeste Langan by the hair EFerrari May 2012 #40

The police in Greece get violent, too, but the Greeks also tend to retaliate: Zalatix May 2012 #42

From Starhawk and friends, key figures in the global justice movement, G_j May 2012 #25

These folks have been fucking protests up in Eugene for the last 15... Poll_Blind May 2012 #27

They are not part of Occupy and hopefully someone will grab one of them and sabrina 1 May 2012 #37

+ 1000 2pooped2pop May 2012 #44

Yes, and if anyone can show me video of a General Assembly where the consensus was to break windows sabrina 1 May 2012 #48

They're cops. BiggJawn May 2012 #49

That was from a protest in Quebec. backscatter712 May 2012 #53

Judge folks by their actions, not their attire. flvegan May 2012 #50

Black Bloc: Chris Hedges warned about these guys Xedniw May 2012 #51

Those who Start Shit are assholes, that's my philosophy arcane1 May 2012 #52

well stated, and quite a quote from Derrick Jensen G_j May 2012 #54

Funny how the Black Blockers never get arrested and walk through police lines like they're invisible Monk06 May 2012 #55

it's almost like there's some sort of collusion or something NuttyFluffers May 2012 #56